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Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 18:31
by Cosmic Puppet
I recently purchased C-Lab Aura software. It's great, but there is no way to back up this 35 year old disk. Making a copy in fast copy doesn't work. Also copying the flux data and writing that back to a blank floppy doesn't work. How do I make a useable backup?
Oh and Happy New Year!
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 18:33
by coonsgm
To clarify copying the flux data means using a greaseweazle to create an HFE doesn't work?
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 18:52
by Cosmic Puppet
coonsgm wrote: 05 Jan 2025 18:33
To clarify copying the flux data means using a greaseweazle to create an HFE doesn't work?
It created a file named "mydisk.scp" after copying the flux data, which I wrote straight back to a blank floppy disk. It copied all the files perfectly but the copy protection was still present stopping the program from running.
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 19:21
by coonsgm
Dang, that's a puzzler. I've use flux data copying with my greaseweazle to copy some pretty tough copy protected original game disks like Dungeon Master. So far it's always worked for me (not saying I've tested all scenarios).
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 19:43
by Cosmic Puppet
coonsgm wrote: 05 Jan 2025 19:21
Dang, that's a puzzler. I've use flux data copying with my greaseweazle to copy some pretty tough copy protected original game disks like Dungeon Master. So far it's always worked for me (not saying I've tested all scenarios).
Just tried an .scp file of it that I found on-line. Wrote it back to a floppy and it's still copy-protected, so...
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 19:45
by coonsgm
Ah so you didn’t create the flux data yourself from your own disk. Got it!
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 19:50
by Cosmic Puppet
coonsgm wrote: 05 Jan 2025 19:45
Ah so you didn’t create the flux data yourself from your own disk. Got it!
I did both. Did it with my own disk first. Then I tried the file from the internet in-case someone had sorted it. It means we have archived files that will never run because of the copy-protection.
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 20:03
by czietz
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 05 Jan 2025 19:50
I did both. Did it with my own disk first. Then I tried the file from the internet in-case someone had sorted it. It means we have archived files that will never run because of the copy-protection.
I wonder if the .scp file from the Internet would run under an emulator...
EDIT: The .stx from here
https://www.atarimania.com/utility-atar ... 23517.html works under Hatari:
grab0001.png
EDIT2: And the .scp from there works under Steem:
steem.png
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 20:10
by Cosmic Puppet
czietz wrote: 05 Jan 2025 20:03
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 05 Jan 2025 19:50
I did both. Did it with my own disk first. Then I tried the file from the internet in-case someone had sorted it. It means we have archived files that will never run because of the copy-protection.
I wonder if the .scp file from the Internet would run under an emulator...
I'd forgotten about them lol Kinda stuffs real hardware though. About to try some files from another source...
Re: Copy-Protected Disk (Once it dies, software gone)
Posted: 05 Jan 2025 20:19
by Cosmic Puppet
czietz wrote: 05 Jan 2025 20:03
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 05 Jan 2025 19:50
I did both. Did it with my own disk first. Then I tried the file from the internet in-case someone had sorted it. It means we have archived files that will never run because of the copy-protection.
I wonder if the .scp file from the Internet would run under an emulator...
EDIT: The .stx from here
https://www.atarimania.com/utility-atar ... 23517.html works under Hatari:
grab0001.png
EDIT2: And the .scp from there works under Steem:
steem.png
Nice! I just tried another source from the net and it crashed in EmuTOS and Bombed in TOS 1.04
So it seems currently no way to back it up for original machines without it being cracked.