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STE booster 2023 batch: no cartridge port read?

Posted: 20 Jun 2024 04:54
by stween
So I got around to installing my 32MHz booster into one of my STEs; I followed these instructions. I have one from the 2023 batch.

I also have this TOS switcher: I installed this a few days ago. TOS boots no problem against the native CPU.

For the booster:
  • I've soldered the single-core wire between the soldering point on the booster and the appropriate pin on the 74F257. Pleasant surprise: my board had a 74F257 in place already.
  • I've soldered the top-right soldering point on the booster to the "CE" soldering point on the dual-TOS board. I used the cut-off from the single-core wire here too; I wasn't sure how sensitive that connection needed to be.
  • I've wedged the booster into place in the socket using the dummy CPU.
The machine boots! In both 1.62 or 2.06. No problems getting to desktop.

But, my problem: the first thing I wanted to do was to run gembench from my sidecart or from my older tester cartridge. Neither cartridge works with the booster in place while boosted.

If I pull out the booster out and stick the old CPU in: the sidecart works a-okay. If I put 0v on the appropriate soldering point to put the booster into 8MHz mode, the cartridge port also works. Otherwise, with the booster at 32MHz, the sidecart gets power (an LED blinks on power-up) but the STE doesn't read it.

The machine is generally stable, with a recapped CPU, a recent 4MB upgrade, and one of the axial cap kits from the store installed a few months back, too.

I wonder about this mandatory fix and I can't recall if I replaced the resistor packs on this board a few years ago. On a very quick check, looking at the resistor packs that are exposed:

P100 is 1.2k, which is what the instructions say is necessary for the booster
P104 and P105 seem to read at around 3.1k.

That's all I know, so far; mainly I'm wondering if there's something likely that I ought to look at here. Maybe the resistor packs are the culprit. I'll get time to debug properly soon.

Re: STE booster 2023 batch: no cartridge port read?

Posted: 20 Jun 2024 09:06
by nolina
Hi,
looks like that this might not be a cartridge port but a Sidecart issue with CPU clock speeds above 8 MHz.
https://docs.sidecartridge.com/sidecart ... ty_issues/

Regards

Re: STE booster 2023 batch: no cartridge port read?

Posted: 20 Jun 2024 14:31
by stween
Ah! Okay, that goes some way to explaining things.

My original tester cartridge might have given up the ghost; I'll need to test it on another machine. This STE doesn't pick it up either in 32MHz or 8MHz mode. But the sidecart does work at 8MHz, which is good.

I put GB6 onto an SD card, so I know I'm looking good:

Re: STE booster 2023 batch: no cartridge port read?

Posted: 20 Jun 2024 14:49
by stween
Two other questions:

The thin wire from the booster to the 74F257: I've seen some discussion on how to route that wire. Is there a "best" way to do this?

The CE wire to the TOS board: can that be any old wire or does it also need to be the thin wire? (I used some spare I cut from the thin wire, and it just reaches, but it's got no slack so I'll re-do it at some point.

Re: STE booster 2023 batch: no cartridge port read?

Posted: 20 Jun 2024 16:19
by Steve
The thin wire routing is recommended in the booster information page under Step 2 (it's actually a photo of my routing after lots of trials)

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4441

But! I don't know if you have been watching exxos's development of the signal delay board for the 32mhz booster, but that fixes the wobbly shifter display bug which previously was attributed to the signal routing. So the signal routing isn't as important as previously thought.

And as far as I know the CE wire can be any old wire.