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Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 05 Jun 2020 21:29
by PhilC
so ive tried now with 1 TF534 and 3 TF536 and no luck in getting the IDE to work at all.
I've tried Tos2.06 and emutos but without much luck.
Any ideas guys?
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 05 Jun 2020 21:48
by terriblefire
PhilC wrote: 05 Jun 2020 21:29
so ive tried now with 1 TF534 and 3 TF536 and no luck in getting the IDE to work at all.
I've tried Tos2.06 and emutos but without much luck.
Any ideas guys?
Got the flylead out to the ACSI port?
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 05 Jun 2020 21:55
by PhilC
No I haven't, where do you connect that on the TF536?
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 05 Jun 2020 22:13
by terriblefire
PhilC wrote: 05 Jun 2020 21:55
No I haven't, where do you connect that on the TF536?
would be best soldering it to the IRQ pin on the ide header i think.
I wanna try getting this going without the flylead at some point but its known not wokring right now.
EDIT: EmuTOS will work with IDE though
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 05 Jun 2020 22:57
by PhilC
I'm going to go over my soldering again, I can only think I've missed something
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 05 Jun 2020 23:20
by agranlund
terriblefire wrote: 05 Jun 2020 22:13
would be best soldering it to the IRQ pin on the ide header i think.
I believe you may need to invert it in that case
http://piters.tripod.com/atari/aidesch.htm
I'm rubbish with Atari IDE so my only tip would be testing with twisted cable since that did the trick for me.
The Atari standard IDE interface is byte-swapped compared to TF, Amiga & PC, but EmuTOS should probably deal with it anyway?
HDDriver & P.Putniks drivers should also work with non-twisted cables as long as the drive was partitioned for that.. I think.... :lol:
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 09 Jun 2020 20:35
by PhilC
Just a quick update.
Thanks for your help @agranlund and @terriblefire , two of the 4 boards so far are working great on the ST with EmuTOS and a 4GB CF card.
I'll post another update once I've tried connecting the IRQ line up to the ACSI port and then try it with TOS2.06.
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 12 Jun 2020 21:05
by PhilC
Aquire update, I've tried linking pin 31 the IDE IRQ pin to the Atari ACSI port but the IDE device isn't detected correctly, having garbage in the ID field and device can't be read by HD HDDriver but the same CF card works fine under EmuTOS without the extra wire.
I've also noticed that some of the "cheap" CF cards when connected to the TF536 will stop the Atari from booting at all. I remember that the exxos IDE had to have an extra pull up resistor fitted to work properly. It might be something similar I guess.
Which devices have you guys had the best luck using with the TF536?
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 30 Nov 2020 20:48
by stephen_usher
PhilC wrote: 12 Jun 2020 21:05
Aquire update, I've tried linking pin 31 the IDE IRQ pin to the Atari ACSI port but the IDE device isn't detected correctly, having garbage in the ID field and device can't be read by HD HDDriver but the same CF card works fine under EmuTOS without the extra wire.
I've also noticed that some of the "cheap" CF cards when connected to the TF536 will stop the Atari from booting at all. I remember that the exxos IDE had to have an extra pull up resistor fitted to work properly. It might be something similar I guess.
Which devices have you guys had the best luck using with the TF536?
I'd be interested to know what pull-up is needed too as I have one of the converter cards from the Exxos store. I'd also like to know which end of the connector is pin 1!
I can't get mine to work at all, in EmuTOS even. I've put a TOS partition table on there and a FAT12 partiton and nothing. This is using an ancient 128MB CF card. If I try to use the Hitachi Microdrive the adapter just gets really hot! I don't think it likes the power draw required to spin the disk up.
Anyone know where I might get a twisted cable?
Re: Unable to get IDE to work on Atari
Posted: 30 Nov 2020 21:09
by PhilC
@stephen_usher its a case of making your own im afraid.