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Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 18:12
by exxos
sandord wrote: 03 Oct 2018 18:10 If only we didn't have the 50% RAM speed problem :cry:
You broke that bit :P You must have created a bad solder or broke something last solder session as it wasn't doing it before...

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 18:16
by sandord
exxos wrote: 03 Oct 2018 18:12
sandord wrote: 03 Oct 2018 18:10 If only we didn't have the 50% RAM speed problem :cry:
You broke that bit :P You must have created a bad solder or broke something last solder session as it wasn't doing it before...
Yeah, I'm really willing to admit that. If only I could find evidence! Looks all clean and I didn't heat anything for longer than a second or two. Going to look into it further tonight.

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 19:08
by sandord
exxos wrote: 03 Oct 2018 10:47 ...I would solder a wire over L51 (next to PSU connector) and see if that does anything.
I'm going to buy you a beer for that one :dualthumbup:

By the way, is L51 some sort of anti-interference filter? Is it possibly creating noise instead of reducing it in our case?

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 19:13
by sandord
sandord wrote: 03 Oct 2018 19:08 By the way, is L51 some sort of anti-interference filter? Is it possibly creating noise instead of reducing it in our case?
Taking a closer look, I think it is a resistor! But why is it so bulky?

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 21:19
by exxos
sandord wrote: 03 Oct 2018 19:13 Taking a closer look, I think it is a resistor! But why is it so bulky?
If the image your posted was your board, you can see the wire on it. Some do look like a resistors... "L" is Inductor.

I noticed I bridged over the same inductor on a C070789-rev F board at some point.. Looks like I added a extra 1MB and must have had issues with the RAM to bridge over it.. must have been some years ago. Likely voltage drop to much across it to power the full 1MB.

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 21:25
by sandord
exxos wrote: 03 Oct 2018 21:19 If the image your posted was your board, you can see the wire on it. Some do look like a resistors... "L" is Inductor.

I noticed I bridged over the same inductor on a C070789-rev F board at some point.. Looks like I added a extra 1MB and must have had issues with the RAM to bridge over it.. must have been some years ago. Likely voltage drop to much across it to power the full 1MB.
Yeah, the picture is from our board. There are coloured rings on the inductor, brown-black-black-silver so that's why I thought it was a resistor.

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Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 21:29
by exxos
sandord wrote: 03 Oct 2018 21:25 Yeah, the picture is from our board. There are coloured rings on the inductor, brown-black-black-silver so that's why I thought it was a resistor.
Yours does look like its got markings on it.. I never seen one like that (with colours) but have seen the wire inductors for a long time in use.

The one I looked at just looks black blobby, like cheap manufacture job... No real markings on it.. possible it could have burnt off over the years..

This was my board...

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Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:39
by sandord
After resoldering the buffers for the second time:
:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

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Thanks Exxos and everybody else for your suggestions! And thanks everybody for bearing with us ;-)
I'm glad we didn't replace the RAM, probably wouldn't have helped and surely would've been a waste of money!

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:01
by exxos
sandord wrote: 04 Oct 2018 16:39 Thanks Exxos and everybody else for your suggestions! And thanks everybody for bearing with us ;-)
I'm glad we didn't replace the RAM, probably wouldn't have helped and surely would've been a waste of money!
Excellent! Thanks for keeping us updated! :thumbup:

So we can rule it as "curse of the toy inductors" then!

Re: 1040 STF showing occasional rogue pixels

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:38
by sandord
exxos wrote: 04 Oct 2018 17:01
sandord wrote: 04 Oct 2018 16:39 Thanks Exxos and everybody else for your suggestions! And thanks everybody for bearing with us ;-)
I'm glad we didn't replace the RAM, probably wouldn't have helped and surely would've been a waste of money!
Excellent! Thanks for keeping us updated! :thumbup:

So we can rule it as "curse of the toy inductors" then!
I'm crying right now. Metrocross is showing bad pixels again. I guess that the wire made the ST only stable at half speed...