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Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 11:31
by Badwolf
exxos wrote: 07 Dec 2022 10:56 If Hatari doesn't give any speedups for cache then its not going to be the problem for the slow down regardless of what its set at.
No, but it does show an obvious point of difference and having the I cache on would likely have an impact on real hardware (which is, I presume, the aim of this!).
There must be something else different between 206 and 306 relating to the TTram tests but Ive so far not been able to work out what.
Perhaps Hatari emulates faster TT-RAM access when emulating a TT?

I think the Hatari data is pretty meaningless beyond relative performance on the same configuration and on checking the CACR.

BW

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 14:19
by exxos
I'll have to try stuff on a real 536 and see what's going on. But need to take a couple weeks off as my hands killing me again. But think its not really worth spending more time on it with so few ST536 out there anyway.

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 14:32
by stephen_usher
exxos wrote: 07 Dec 2022 14:19 I'll have to try stuff on a real 536 and see what's going on. But need to take a couple weeks off as my hands killing me again. But think its not really worth spending more time on it with so few ST536 out there anyway.
It works nicely with normal TF536 cards too though, far better than EmuTOS in my opinion.

What's your build environment? Maybe someone else can share the load?

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 21:13
by stephen_usher
Hatari 2.4.1 2.4.1 (hack to allow 32 bit addressing without being a TT):

PAK/3 3.06 ST RAM Test: 2.5 seconds
ST536 2.06 ST RAM Test: 17 seconds

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 21:37
by exxos
stephen_usher wrote: 07 Dec 2022 21:13 Hatari 2.4.1 2.4.1 (hack to allow 32 bit addressing without being a TT):

PAK/3 3.06 ST RAM Test: 2.5 seconds
ST536 2.06 ST RAM Test: 17 seconds
Is that the original 536 TOS ? Did you try the TP_23 one ? viewtopic.php?p=95016#p95016

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 22:16
by stephen_usher
exxos wrote: 07 Dec 2022 21:37 Is that the original 536 TOS ? Did you try the TP_23 one ? viewtopic.php?p=95016#p95016
It was tp03.img. I've just tested tp32.img and it's the same.

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 22:22
by exxos
stephen_usher wrote: 07 Dec 2022 22:16 It was tp03.img. I've just tested tp32.img and it's the same.
So what does original TOS306 test as ?

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 22:28
by stephen_usher
I'll have to find a copy.

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 22:39
by exxos
stephen_usher wrote: 07 Dec 2022 22:28 I'll have to find a copy.
http://www.avtandil.narod.ru/tose.html

Re: TOS RAM test routine ?

Posted: 07 Dec 2022 22:57
by stephen_usher
Thanks... About 2.5 seconds