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Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 06 Jul 2020 07:54
by djhardrich
I found a C-Lab Notator (pink label) dongle for under $300 (an absolute rarity), czietz or Troed, would you like to take a look at it? Apparently the Creator dongle doesn’t work with Notator (extremely sought-after, much like Cubase 3.1). I don’t have a real ST to help debug unfortunately, just want to see these get preserved/implemented in the ST MiST/MiSTer cores as well, and since they don’t have enough pins for a cartridge port, it really boils down to keeping these things compatible with the only (FPGA) ST’s that won’t rot in the next 10 years ;)
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 06 Jul 2020 22:26
by troed
I'm sure it will be similar to Creator, so if I succeed in dumping the Creator key I have it would be worthwhile spending that kind of money on Notator. However, currently I'm on the 1st gen Steinberger (Masterscore right now) and while I know I will succeed (thanks to the work others have done) I don't have much time to spend on it at the moment.
/Troed
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 21:25
by Tomswork
Just got a computer from ebay and it had this plugged in the end any input on what notator it is for
20200707_131804.jpg
Tom
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 21:31
by JezC
@Tomswork Pretty sure that the original Notator dongle will work with any version of Notator (unlike the Cubase dongles, where red is for v3 & score etc. but black is for v2.0 or earlier).
I've managed to use one of mine with v3.21 (AFAIK the last version released...which also works with the Log 3 interface that comes with Logic) & it did work with earlier versions (I think I upgraded from Creator to Notator while version 2 was the current version).
Is there a specific version you want to use it with?
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 21:37
by Tomswork
@JezC
I think I have notator on a hd somewere will see if this cartridge works. Maybe someone can you use the cartridge. And the hd has lots of recoverable midi files
Tom
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 22:21
by JezC
@Tomswork Even if the files don't work from the hard drive, the original disc images are available online (I can dig out a link if you need it).
I'm sure that it will be very useful to a forum member (I'm lucky enough to have a couple of original Notator dongles plus two Log 3 interfaces).
If all else fails, one of the EmuTOS developers was wanting to borrow a dongle to help fix a small graphics corruption that occurs with Notator on EmuTOS while NVDI is running.
Do you have any interest in using the ST for MIDI/music?
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 22:40
by Tomswork
@JezC
No I'm not a musician. I would like to pass the dongle on to some who can use it. And enjoy it. If you know anyone let me know
Tom
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 22:49
by JezC
Tomswork wrote: 07 Jul 2020 22:40
@JezC
No I'm not a musician. I would like to pass the dongle on to some who can use it. And enjoy it. If you know anyone let me know
Tom
Will do - if no-one else wants it then I would suggest that you consider loaning it to the EmuTOS developers to help them fix a bug & test future releases (at least until there is another way round the dongle protection).
It's very good of you to offer the dongle!
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 23:06
by djhardrich
@Tomswork It appears @troed would be the person that could make use of it the most; 2 posts before yours, I was talking about spending $300usd on the same cartridge to send to him or @czietz ;) If you could lend the cart to the reversing effort, that’d be incredible!
(I’m exactly the kind of person that could make use of/enjoy the dongle, but getting it reversed for the community is a bigger win ;) )
Let me know if I can help somehow!
EDIT: Looks like czietz is too busy at the moment, so I suppose that leaves Troed for reversing or the EmuTOS crew to fix the graphic bug.... Will chip in on shipping costs ;)
Re: Cartridge keys and emulation
Posted: 08 Jul 2020 00:29
by Cosmic Puppet
Hi there. I had issues trying out the online version.
Here is my original disk which I still have.
NOTATOR.zip