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Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 17 Oct 2017 08:58
by IngoQ
Hiya,
Since I have the STE booster, could the same be achieved with this one, or do I really have to toss it and buy another one?
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 17 Oct 2017 09:00
by exxos
IngoQ wrote: 17 Oct 2017 08:58
Hiya,
Since I have the STE booster, could the same be achieved with this one, or do I really have to toss it and buy another one?
The both pretty much the same design. Just different PCB layout.
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 19 Oct 2017 16:18
by IngoQ
exxos wrote: 09 Oct 2017 16:28
Also you will need to change the resistor packs on the motherboard for 2.2K ones, as the ones on the booster board will be isolated from the CPU.
Slowly trying to understand, how this all works... until now it only was mechanics for me, basically ;)
As far as I understood, this refers to the pull-ups on adress and databus, so P101-P103 and P104-P105, am I right? These have originally (at least in the schematics) 4.7k and 10k. You change them to 2.2k, because the original ones do not raise the levels fast enough for 32MHz?
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 19 Oct 2017 16:28
by exxos
IngoQ wrote: 19 Oct 2017 16:18
Slowly trying to understand, how this all works... until now it only was mechanics for me, basically ;)
As far as I understood, this refers to the pull-ups on adress and databus, so P101-P103 and P104-P105, am I right? These have originally (at least in the schematics) 4.7k and 10k. You change them to 2.2k, because the original ones do not raise the levels fast enough for 32MHz?
The address and databus resistors which are 4.7k and 10k, I change them all for 2.2K. Without them machine is just simply unstable. Signals have to change faster at 32 MHz so it needs a lower value resistor.
Basically to save changing them on the motherboard, I just included them on the STE booster board itself. They then get linked with the ones on the motherboard, so the values of actually going to work out a little less than 2.2K.
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 19 Oct 2017 16:49
by IngoQ
exxos wrote: 19 Oct 2017 16:28
They then get linked with the ones on the motherboard, so the values of actually going to work out a little less than 2.2K.
Should I use 1.5k for P101-P103 and 1.8k for P104 and P105 then?
(Because 4.7k and 2.2k parallel is 1.5k and of course 10k and 2.2k parallel is 1.8k ...)
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 19 Oct 2017 16:52
by exxos
IngoQ wrote: 19 Oct 2017 16:49
Should I use 1.5k for P101-P103 and 1.8k for P104 and P105 then?
(Because 4.7k and 2.2k parallel is 1.5k and of course 10k and 2.2k parallel is 1.8k ...)
If you're removing the resistors, just use 2.2 K as replacements.
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 31 Oct 2017 12:01
by IngoQ
Hmm, I guess the machine should start with only the resistors replaced and everything else stock? If so, then I might have another issue with this system...
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 31 Oct 2017 13:29
by exxos
IngoQ wrote: 31 Oct 2017 12:01
Hmm, I guess the machine should start with only the resistors replaced and everything else stock? If so, then I might have another issue with this system...
Yes, and apparently yes ;)
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 31 Oct 2017 14:03
by IngoQ
Found it... while removing the resistor packages, I damaged two address lines :-( Repaired now, but I am certainly never going to change them back ;)
Re: non-socketed CPU
Posted: 31 Oct 2017 15:38
by IngoQ
exxos wrote: 28 Aug 2017 17:02
I'm not that cofortable with bending up CPU pins. I am afraid, they might break. In the above picture, it looks like you found another way of isolating the CPU clock... did you cut a trace somewhere? I followed the CPU clock until it disappeared under U203, but did not find any nice solder points...