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Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 12:23
by Cosmic Puppet
After reading the latest email they have found the cause and are just seeing how best to proceed.

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 12:24
by czietz
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 19 Oct 2021 12:21 Hi @JezC Yeah, he messaged in the development through asking Christian if he would like him to look at it.
Well; I don't have a Notator dongle. So I can only use a Notator version 3.0 of questionable (*cough* ;) ) origin. But in any case: I have a working hypothesis now, please see my reply on the mailing list.

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 12:28
by Cosmic Puppet
czietz wrote: 19 Oct 2021 12:24
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 19 Oct 2021 12:21 Hi @JezC Yeah, he messaged in the development through asking Christian if he would like him to look at it.
Well; I don't have a Notator dongle. So I can only use a Notator version 3.0 of questionable (*cough* ;) ) origin. But in any case: I have a working hypothesis now, please see my reply on the mailing list.
Thanks, yeah just read it. Because I'm now using Unitor. I have a dongle for Notator 3.21, so if you did need it for testing purposes in the future I can lend it to you. I think Roger may have one from a previous issue last year which he fixed.

Thank you for your help with this! 8-)

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 12:30
by czietz
PS: If you want to test my hypothesis, you can use @thorsten.otto's inofficial but excellent custom EmuTOS building service:
http://tho-otto.de/emutos/.

Select "Output: emutos.prg" at the top, leave all options as they are except for disabling "3D Objects" and click on "Create EmuTOS image". That gives you a customized EMUTOSUS.PRG, without AES 3D objects which I think are the issue here.

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 12:32
by JezC
@czietz @Cosmic Puppet Great to hear it's sorted.

Again, superb support from the EmuTOS team - sorry I've not had chance to catch up on the email chain.

I must try that custom builder (until I can set up my own tool-chain install at home)

You guys rock! :thumbup: :thanksblue:

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 12:40
by Cosmic Puppet
czietz wrote: 19 Oct 2021 12:30 PS: If you want to test my hypothesis, you can use @thorsten.otto's inofficial but excellent custom EmuTOS building service:
http://tho-otto.de/emutos/.

Select "Output: emutos.prg" at the top, leave all options as they are except for disabling "3D Objects" and click on "Create EmuTOS image". That gives you a customized EMUTOSUS.PRG, without AES 3D objects which I think are the issue here.
Thank you. Although, I'll leave that just now as I don't really know what I'm doing and might trigger another migraine. :lol:

I've bookmarked the page for possible future use.

Tony

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 13:45
by thorsten.otto
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 19 Oct 2021 12:40 Although, I'll leave that just now as I don't really know what I'm doing and might trigger another migraine. :lol:
You can still try it, since you are using the prg version and don't have to burn eproms, that should be rather easy ;)
If you do something stupid..erm.. something that the tool/config system did not expect, then you most likely will get compile errors. If compilation works, it will send you also the localconf.h that was used, so if something goes wrong you can post that on the mailing list.

The tool itself does not do much checking, it relies on the rather exhaustive consistency checks in config.h. But trying to build emutos locally is almost the same, except that you have to create that localconf.h manually.

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 13:57
by Cosmic Puppet
That's like me saying "Play a Dm7(b5 b9) chord" to someone who hasn't studied music. :lol:

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 14:17
by JezC
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 19 Oct 2021 13:57 That's like me saying "Play a Dm7(b5 b9) chord" to someone who hasn't studied music. :lol:
Worryingly, I think I understand both of the above comments :lol: :roll: :hide:

Re: The Cosmic Puppet's Universe.

Posted: 19 Oct 2021 14:57
by Cosmic Puppet
JezC wrote: 19 Oct 2021 14:17
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 19 Oct 2021 13:57 That's like me saying "Play a Dm7(b5 b9) chord" to someone who hasn't studied music. :lol:
Worryingly, I think I understand both of the above comments :lol: :roll: :hide:
:lol:

That could make you a genius @JezC