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Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 13 Oct 2020 23:20
by Globox
Turns out a friend of mine happens to have an oscilloscope, so I can measure things myself! :D
Still don't really know what/how I have to measure though...
The suspected problem is a dead shifter chip, so how do I check if that's the problem?

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 13 Oct 2020 23:27
by exxos
Globox wrote: 13 Oct 2020 23:20 The suspected problem is a dead shifter chip, so how do I check if that's the problem?
You can only really try chips in a known working machine to see if they are faulty or not.

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 00:14
by Globox
Then why does everybody keep telling me I need an oscilloscope?

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 00:38
by exxos
Globox wrote: 14 Oct 2020 00:14 Then why does everybody keep telling me I need an oscilloscope?
To test a chip a second known good machine is the easiest way to test, you use a scope to trouble shoot everything else if things still do not work when the chip is known good.

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 11:51
by Globox
exxos wrote: 14 Oct 2020 00:38
Globox wrote: 14 Oct 2020 00:14 Then why does everybody keep telling me I need an oscilloscope?
To test a chip a second known good machine is the easiest way to test, you use a scope to trouble shoot everything else if things still do not work when the chip is known good.
Oh i thought you said I need to check clocks if I suspect a dead shifter?

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 12:38
by exxos
Yes you can do that to start with.

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 13:34
by Globox
Allright so how do i need to do that? Just measure the oscillator?
And how can those results give me an idea about what the problem is?
(Like I said, my knowledge of electronics isn't great, though my will to try to fix my own stuff is :D )

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 23:32
by exxos
You measure pin 2 - 32Mhz, and pin 39 - 16MHz..

Though I am a little lost exactly what you have and have not got working now ? Seems you are troubleshooting a dead machine ? in which case you should probably open up a new topic as this thread was problems installing RAM which I assume is sorted now ?

Re: Questions regarding a 4mb update on 1040STF, motherboard C070523-001 REV. C

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 00:55
by Globox
Oh allright will do!