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Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:03
by AtariFox
I was looking around the forum, and found something about an STF Buffer
I dunno if this would do anything. Or has already been succeeded by a better fix.
I believe this is the thread icky mentioned the Nasty DMA from.
https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 110#p13231
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:06
by Steve
DoG wrote: 16 Sep 2020 16:00
It isn't as simple as the floppy disks going bad then? If two drives behaves in similar way? Got a gotek?
I really should get a spare gotek for these purposes to be honest. I did try my spare floppy drive though. I have also tried different disks. The issue was reproducible over two different floppy drives and disks. Also the aspect that the drive can format/write perfectly but has issues on the read, so far all of this is pointing to the DMA (especially after all the things I've tried already) Even though I have tried a brand new WD chip from exxos store which made no difference, I've put an order in for the VL1772 version just to be sure. I'll also try a new floppy belt just to make sure.
I'll update the thread again once I've got all this done.
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:07
by Steve
That is just for the H4 remake board unfortunately, not something for STFMs
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:12
by AtariFox
Steve wrote: 16 Sep 2020 16:07
That is just for the H4 remake board unfortunately, not something for STFMs
Bugger. Looked promising too, since the prototype was on a STM, lol.
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 16 Sep 2020 16:25
by Icky
I think diagnosing step by step is the best approach as you have been doing thats what I had to do on the ALPHA by testing two versions of the 1772 chip and two versions of the DMA chip to see which combination worked. Thats how I ended up figuring out it was a DMA chip that was causing my issue.
The 1772 buffer board can work on an STFM (I have one on my STFM) but as mentioned above I would just get the machine working normally first.
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 17 Sep 2020 20:32
by exxos
The 1772 buffer should work on any machine.. But if the 1772 has been swapped a couple of times already.. Then I would assume that is not a issue.
Its starting to make me wonder what can be wrong now :lol: :roll:
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 18 Sep 2020 16:56
by Icky
It does sound sooo similar to my Nasty DMA issue.
I would socket out the DMA and try another one to see if that is the case.
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 20 Sep 2020 00:15
by exxos
Sounds almost like these issues
https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 221#p49221
Though again, the MFP is involved and some TTL logic chips if you look at the schematic...
EG on the H4...
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Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 20 Sep 2020 02:16
by AtariFox
Thank you for continuing to offer help and advice all.
Re: AtariFox STFM service blog
Posted: 20 Sep 2020 16:53
by Steve
Socketed DMA, tested new DMA chip, no difference!
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In desperation, decided to do an extremely thorough floppy service, not just a head clean. Full swab with IPA, remove old rail grease, apply new innox PTFE machinery grease, clean heads again & replace all caps on the power circuitry.
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And this seems to have solved the problems. Not sure exactly what the issue is after all that...
Video of drive working: