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Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 30 Apr 2024 10:34
by stephen_usher
:lol:

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 03 May 2024 10:40
by exxos
Day 4 ... Email still getting through... That's two more days longer than all the other times I was unbanned :shock: :hide:

Oddly I seem to get abuse reports from wp.pl I don't even know what that site is. I certainly have never emailed it.

If anyone can make any sense of the report then let me know...

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<feedback>
<report_metadata>
<date_range>
<begin>1714600800</begin>
<end>1714687200</end>
</date_range>
<org_name>wp.pl</org_name>
<email>dmarc-support@wp.pl</email>
<extra_contact_info>dmarc-reports@wp.pl</extra_contact_info>
<report_id>1714695505.815565118</report_id>
</report_metadata>
<policy_published>
<domain>exxosforum.co.uk</domain>
<adkim>r</adkim>
<aspf>r</aspf>
<p>none</p>
<sp>none</sp>
<pct>100</pct>
</policy_published>
<record>
<row>
<source_ip>185.52.2.172</source_ip>
<count>3</count>
<policy_evaluated>
<disposition>none</disposition>
<dkim>pass</dkim>
<spf>pass</spf>
</policy_evaluated>
</row>
<identifiers>
<header_from>exxosforum.co.uk</header_from>
</identifiers>
<auth_results>
<spf>
<domain>exxosforum.co.uk</domain>
<result>pass</result>
</spf>
<dkim>
<domain>exxosforum.co.uk</domain>
<result>pass</result>
</dkim>
</auth_results>
</record>
</feedback>
Got one from outlook as well..

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<feedback xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
  <version>1.0</version>
  <report_metadata>
    <org_name>Outlook.com</org_name>
    <email>dmarcreport@microsoft.com</email>
    <report_id>e6e9da35006a45f6a682e9a3b7b28ebf</report_id>
    <date_range>
      <begin>1714435200</begin>
      <end>1714521600</end>
    </date_range>
  </report_metadata>
  <policy_published>
    <domain>exxoshost.co.uk</domain>
    <adkim>r</adkim>
    <aspf>r</aspf>
    <p>none</p>
    <sp>none</sp>
    <pct>100</pct>
    <fo>0</fo>
  </policy_published>
  <record>
    <row>
      <source_ip>185.52.2.172</source_ip>
      <count>1</count>
      <policy_evaluated>
        <disposition>none</disposition>
        <dkim>fail</dkim>
        <spf>pass</spf>
      </policy_evaluated>
    </row>
    <identifiers>
      <envelope_to>hotmail.com</envelope_to>
      <envelope_from>exxoshost.co.uk</envelope_from>
      <header_from>exxoshost.co.uk</header_from>
    </identifiers>
    <auth_results>
      <spf>
        <domain>exxoshost.co.uk</domain>
        <scope>mfrom</scope>
        <result>pass</result>
      </spf>
    </auth_results>
  </record>
</feedback>
<dkim>fail</dkim>
:shrug: Though I wonder if that's because its exxoshost not exxosforum :shrug:

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 03 May 2024 21:59
by Cyprian
exxos wrote: 03 May 2024 10:40 Day 4 ... Email still getting through... That's two more days longer than all the other times I was unband :shock: :hide:
good news
exxos wrote: 03 May 2024 10:40Oddly I seem to get abuse reports from wp.pl I don't even know what that site is. I certainly have never emailed it.
WP.pl is (or was) the largest Polish equivalent of Yahoo - news, email accounts, web accounts etc.

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 04 May 2024 08:25
by derkom
exxos wrote: 03 May 2024 10:40 Oddly I seem to get abuse reports from wp.pl I don't even know what that site is. I certainly have never emailed it.
Your DMARC record includes "rua=mailto:abuse@[redacted];", which is requesting that other mail systems send you aggregate reports of mail from you that they have processed. Most email systems don't do that, but some do. On my own personal, low-volume server, I receive reports from Gmail and Outlook fairly often, and rarely some other system I happen to have sent a mail to on a given day.

While you may not have sent any mail to a @wp.pl address, your server probably did send something to some domain whose mail is processed by wp.pl.

You can generally just ignore these reports. On my server, my DMARC requests they be sent to reports@, which makes it easy for me just to /dev/null that address during times I'm not interested. :)

I imagine that on high volume servers these reports could be pretty useful for analysing aggregate acceptance data, but in my case they are typically reporting an "aggregate" of one email. :D

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 05 May 2024 22:08
by exxos
@derkom OK thanks, but why <dkim>fail</dkim> in the log is that their failure or mine :shrug:

Day 6 still not banned :shrug:

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 05 May 2024 23:23
by rubber_jonnie
exxos wrote: 05 May 2024 22:08 @derkom OK thanks, but why <dkim>fail</dkim> in the log is that their failure or mine :shrug:

Day 6 still not banned :shrug:
But my mysterious spam continues...

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 07 May 2024 09:38
by derkom
exxos wrote: 05 May 2024 22:08 @derkom OK thanks, but why <dkim>fail</dkim> in the log is that their failure or mine :shrug:
I don't actually know. I would suspect your guess is right.

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 07 May 2024 09:42
by stephen_usher
exxos wrote: 05 May 2024 22:08 @derkom OK thanks, but why <dkim>fail</dkim> in the log is that their failure or mine :shrug:

Day 6 still not banned :shrug:
Oh, they're saying that your DKIM record failed for some reason.

Using nslookup it seems that the IP address reverse look-up is exxosforum rather than exxoshost and hence the names don't match. The IP address reverse look-up for exxoshost should be primary.

You can check this yourself. Run nslookup and type in exxoshost.co.uk then copy and paste the IP address in the A record back into nslookup and you get exxosforum.co.uk.

You should really have exxosthost as the A record and exxosforum as a CNAME.

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 07 May 2024 10:02
by exxos
Problem is, exxosforum is actually the master domain these days. exxoshost is only there to not break links more than anything.

Re: My fight against Microsoft Outlook hotmail etc email blocking

Posted: 07 May 2024 10:24
by stephen_usher
For mail exchange the A record has to be primary unfortunately. The MX record has to point to it and reverse look-up should return that domainname. It's a right pain. This is why my home system's primary DNS name is mail.lingula.org.uk and everything else is a CNAME pointing to that.