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Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 24 Mar 2020 15:23
by rubber_jonnie
PaulJ wrote: 24 Mar 2020 14:45
Sometimes using a reclaimed chips can be a pain in the a%% getting all the pins in the holes. I purchased this pin straitner that helps a lot getting all the pins aligned so they cane inserted in a socket.

https://www.jameco.com/shop/ProductDisp ... ctId=99363
@PaulJ Hmm interesting. At the moment I use a pair of small pliers with a flat, parallel nose, it works very well, but I may invest in something like that.

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 24 Mar 2020 15:53
by PaulJ
rubber_jonnie wrote: 24 Mar 2020 15:23 @PaulJ Hmm interesting. At the moment I use a pair of small pliers with a flat, parallel nose, it works very well, but I may invest in something like that.
Its not perfect but it really improves your chances of getting a used chip in the socket without going crazy. The pliers were my old solution but does work better than that.

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 24 Mar 2020 16:34
by rubber_jonnie
PaulJ wrote: 24 Mar 2020 15:53
rubber_jonnie wrote: 24 Mar 2020 15:23 @PaulJ Hmm interesting. At the moment I use a pair of small pliers with a flat, parallel nose, it works very well, but I may invest in something like that.
Its not perfect but it really improves your chances of getting a used chip in the socket without going crazy. The pliers were my old solution but does work better than that.
@PaulJ Yeah, I can imagine they help massively. I recently got a proper chip puller, it works great for TOS ROMS and anything up to about DMA/Shifter/AY size. Bit expensive (£33!) but worth it IMHO.

Actually, I also got a cheap Chinese chip puller off eBay that was only about £5, and it isn't too bad, but it isn't as easy to use as the other.

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 26 Apr 2020 13:33
by Smonson
So, I started on my el-cheapo EPROM programmer. Gonna use an Arduino Mega, since it has lots of IOs and a USB serial port, and slap a bunch of voltage regulators on it since you need 5v (for normal reading), 6.5v (for program verification), and 12.5v (for programming). I'm going to generate these voltages from adjustable LM317s. From Jaycar, the Mega and the shield are $63 AUD ($40USD). I think I have everything else I need on hand.

Wiring up the PLCC-44 is going to be a bit of a job.
eprom-programmer-1.jpg

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 03 May 2020 13:19
by Smonson
The programmer works - not quickly mind you! But considering that it only comprised about $20 USD in parts I'm not complaining.

I have to erase the chip again now :lol:

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 03 May 2020 13:22
by PhilC
To quote Hannibal from the A team, "I love it when a plan comes together "

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 04 May 2020 11:19
by Smonson
PhilC wrote: 03 May 2020 13:22 To quote Hannibal from the A team, "I love it when a plan comes together "
Classic!

Here are the final pics with the interesting wiring underneath. I had to cut a couple of analogue pins off (analogue! hah! who needs 'em!) to fit all the wires through the gap.

Whoever designed this IO board shield with the wiring connectors on the far side of the inter-board connectors is now on my people-to-murder list.
eprom-prog.jpg
eprom-prog-underside.jpg
Tell you what I should have done: worked out which pins go to which IO ports on the ATMega 2560 before I wired this up. I probably underestimated how much extra time would be wasted shifting bits around to get the right data to go to the right pins. Patience is a virtue I don't have time for :lol:

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 07 May 2020 13:04
by Smonson
It's so close, I can smell it. It smells like... burning PVC.

I have RAM and I've burned TOS into the second half of the EPROM (I hope that's what the jumper near the ROM socket does). I seem to have lost my optocoupler but it's on the manifest so it's gotta be somewhere in the garage, perhaps on the floor??? :lol:

I've done all the mods apart from the 470-ohm DMA resistors one. I've got the only socket on there that really matters: the one for the shifter.

I'll probably be able to hit the power button this weekend if I can find enough jumpers! Albeit without the luxury of a floppy drive. That connector's still in the mail.
smonson-h4-3.jpg

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 07 May 2020 13:13
by exxos
Smonson wrote: 07 May 2020 13:04 It's so close, I can smell it. It smells like... burning PVC.
:cheer: :cheer:
Smonson wrote: 07 May 2020 13:04 I have RAM and I've burned TOS into the second half of the EPROM (I hope that's what the jumper near the ROM socket does).
yep :)
Smonson wrote: 07 May 2020 13:04 I seem to have lost my optocoupler but it's on the manifest so it's gotta be somewhere in the garage, perhaps on the floor??? :lol:
Just don't use the original opto, it doesn't work ;)
Smonson wrote: 07 May 2020 13:04 I'll probably be able to hit the power button this weekend if I can find enough jumpers! Albeit without the luxury of a floppy drive. That connector's still in the mail.
:bravo: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:

Re: Smonson's slow H4 build

Posted: 07 May 2020 13:16
by PhilC
:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Pop a serial socket on it maybe?