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ah crap :pullhair: So I will try 33pF on the clock next. Had no end of issues with that on STE boosters in the past.

exxos wrote: 15 Aug 2023 09:54

stephen_usher wrote: 15 Aug 2023 06:12 If you look at the second set of traces from your ‘scope. The second one goes low far earlier than the first.

Is that the bus request line?

It's BR but I wouldn't read into timings to much as I was having to zoom in and out signals to capture them for best image.

It's still double the length. The timebase is the same on both images.

stephen_usher wrote: 15 Aug 2023 13:19 It's still double the length. The timebase is the same on both images.

It varies if you look at it in real time. I've not checked specifically , but either 2 or 3 different timings on that.

The first pass with 33pF worked. I have also soldered some "crowbar diodes" to the clock. This is before and after.


Will keep on testing.

EDIT:

2nd pass is fine. Onto the 3rd..

EDIT2:

3rd pass is fine.. Onto the 4th..

So 4th pass started to see corrupt file names again :roll: But this time the names are different and its not actually crashed. So something has changed.


I think I will add those 2 caps back on again and see if its a combination of problems not one single problem on something. Though I think its pretty conclusive the STE doesn't like IMP Blitter chips.

EDIT:

The filenames have gone OK again now. So something is borderline still somewhere.

2 caps back on.. Very boring (and time-consuming) having to watch the file deletes all the time .


Currently past 4 times..

exxos wrote: 14 Aug 2023 15:08 Grabbed the latest EMUTOS and didn't get very far :( @czietz ?

I see that you've moved on before I even noticed myself being mentioned. Sorry! But I still wanted to comment on your question. The message that you got is only supposed to happen when the total folder depth for a Desktop operation (like copying files) hits 14(!) folders; which is the same limit as Atari TOS, btw.

I just confirmed that for me it works as expected:



In practice, however, considering how rare 13-level deep folder structures are, I have only hit this error when there was corruption in the file system; e.g., a folder pointing to itself, causing an apparent infinite folder depth.

czietz wrote: 16 Aug 2023 18:11 I see that you've moved on before I even noticed myself being mentioned. Sorry! But I still wanted to comment on your question. The message that you got is only supposed to happen when the total folder depth for a Desktop operation (like copying files) hits 14(!) folders; which is the same limit as Atari TOS, btw.

That's odd then. I count 12 deep (unless i've miss counted. ) in my tree download/file.php?id=32099

But either way, it works fine in TOS all the way through the deletion, so I don't see how EMUTOS is the same when it fails ?

exxos wrote: 16 Aug 2023 19:48 But either way, it works fine in TOS all the way through the deletion, so I don't see how EMUTOS is the same when it fails ?

Here is Atari TOS 2.06 failing in the exact same way: 13 levels deep works, 14 levels deep cannot be copied.



Hence, I'm interested in what you do differently...

czietz wrote: 16 Aug 2023 20:48 Hence, I'm interested in what you do differently...

Maybe because I have thousands of files and folders also ?

I can probably PM you my files, it's about 62MB zipped if you want to dump that on a SD card and try. All I can say is it works in TOS, but EMUTOS doesn't.