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luciodra wrote: 20 Jan 2026 18:21 What video card did I buy? I tried to put it in the Raven but it shows no signs of life even when changing jumpers. From terminal it gives me "no vga bios detected".

IMG_2854.jpg

It actually looks like AGP connector or AGP Pro. Definitely not ISA sadly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port

viking272 wrote: 21 Jan 2026 15:09

luciodra wrote: 20 Jan 2026 18:21 What video card did I buy? I tried to put it in the Raven but it shows no signs of life even when changing jumpers. From terminal it gives me "no vga bios detected".

IMG_2854.jpg

It actually looks like AGP connector or AGP Pro. Definitely not ISA sadly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port

Vesa Local Bus.

bbisi wrote: 21 Jan 2026 14:14 @luciodra
Hi
i want with the raven go to internet. like you shows in this tread
my network is running with sting
ping to the whole sites in my network and ping 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 and other runs

But I can not see any internet site from cab
like http://www.google.com or other

what did I make wrong

Try http://frogfind.com/

LarryL wrote: 20 Jan 2026 19:33 Looks like a VESA Local Bus Card
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Local_Bus
Will not work on a pure ISA bus, I’m afraid…

Yep looks like a VLB card :/

Some day. I would love to make a redesign with a VLB slot.
It wasn't realistic for Raven I thought, since there were no drivers to support such card anyway at the time, and I had no clear idea of how to make my own. Particularly the VDI side of it rather than actual driver code.

The situation is different today with the Cirrus driver in place.

@luciodra

Try http://frogfind.com/

no they don't find anything
Message. " couldn´t resolve host ´frogfind.com´ "

bbisi wrote: 21 Jan 2026 18:43 @luciodra

Try http://frogfind.com/

no they don't find anything
Message. " couldn´t resolve host ´frogfind.com´ "

I think you are on Emutos and have configured Sting.
If you run SYSINFO.TTP what does it return?

agranlund wrote: 21 Jan 2026 18:25

LarryL wrote: 20 Jan 2026 19:33 Looks like a VESA Local Bus Card
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Local_Bus
Will not work on a pure ISA bus, I’m afraid…

Yep looks like a VLB card :/

Some day. I would love to make a redesign with a VLB slot.
It wasn't realistic for Raven I thought, since there were no drivers to support such card anyway at the time, and I had no clear idea of how to make my own. Particularly the VDI side of it rather than actual driver code.

The situation is different today with the Cirrus driver in place.

Don't waste time...I was hoping that by mounting the card on the ISA slot something would work... :?

luciodra wrote: 21 Jan 2026 19:12 Don't waste time...I was hoping that by mounting the card on the ISA slot something would work... :?

No it's not going to work in an ISA slot, it needs the VLB extension on motherboard and accompanying bus logic to use such a card.
What I meant was that some day I would love to make a redesigned motherboard that actually has a VLB slot.
One is enough because realistically you'd only use it for a VLB graphics card.

More than one was flakey even back then on 486's..
Heck, even one was flakey so no wonder PCI killed it even though VLB was actually faster than PCI by quite a bit. Assuming your card was also ok with the bus running at the max rated 50mhz.
It was also very tied to the 486 bus and not as generic as PCI so there's that too. Though 386 was actually supported too, even the SX with its 16bit host interface instead of the normal 32.

For a hobby homemade computer I think VLB probably makes a lot of sense unless you want the more modern PCI cards.
It's faster than PCI, and also much simpler being a bit of an ISA on stereoids. Or rather, it's an almost-486 bus directly exposed.

Edit: ah no I forget, PCI eventually went from 33 up to 66mhz did it? So then VLB is slower but it still has the simpler going for it I guess :)

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