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Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 14:27
by exxos
This is the last thing I see on the scope as it freezes...

Again the top yellow wave is ST_DTACK, bottom blue is ST_AS.....As to whether or not this is just coincidence or not I have no idea...

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EDIT:

Another shot before it locked up, is where ST_AS is going low when I don't think it should be as DTACK is high the entire time...

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EDIT2:

Now the programmer seems to have started being sulky again..

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Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 20:35
by terriblefire
You know that card worked almost first time out of the gate for me.. and i went Meh... and put it in a drawer for almost a year?

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 20:58
by exxos
terriblefire wrote: 06 Apr 2021 20:35 You know that card worked almost first time out of the gate for me.. and i went Meh... and put it in a drawer for almost a year?
It's the SDRAM module upsetting things somehow, everything else basically works fine.

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 21:25
by terriblefire
exxos wrote: 06 Apr 2021 20:58
terriblefire wrote: 06 Apr 2021 20:35 You know that card worked almost first time out of the gate for me.. and i went Meh... and put it in a drawer for almost a year?
Its the SDRAM module upsetting things somehow, everything else basically works fine.
I have that working on 5 different designs of my boards and another person has the firmware code running perfectly on a completely new amiga motherboard. Do you have all the correct settings from my makefiles set in the fitter and synth? i.e. termination types/speeds etc. otherwise it will not work.

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 21:48
by exxos
terriblefire wrote: 06 Apr 2021 21:25 Do you have all the correct settings from my makefiles set in the fitter and synth? i.e. termination types/speeds etc. otherwise it will not work.
I checked the settings you sent, pretty much all those are default anyway, I made some changes on the different ones but did not make any difference.

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:04
by exxos
Finally looking how things are supposed to be :thumbup:

When high it is either accessing ROM or TTRAM... If it is pulsing low, it is accessing the ST bus.. which is not all that often now :)


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Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:07
by terriblefire
exxos wrote: 06 Apr 2021 21:48
terriblefire wrote: 06 Apr 2021 21:25 Do you have all the correct settings from my makefiles set in the fitter and synth? i.e. termination types/speeds etc. otherwise it will not work.
I checked the settings you sent, pretty much all those are default anyway, I made some changes on the different ones but did not make any difference.
The big ones are keepio, slew rate and termination mode... if its set to KEEPER it will break (long thread here about that)

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:10
by exxos
terriblefire wrote: 06 Apr 2021 22:07 The big ones are keepio, slew rate and termination mode... if its set to KEEPER it will break (long thread here about that)
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EDIT

OH actually its moaning...

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Process "Generate Programming File" completed successfully
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Output Slew Rate cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:Output Slew Rate.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:I/O Pin Termination cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:I/O Pin Termination.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Macrocell Power Setting cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:Macrocell Power Setting.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Collapsing Pterm Limit (1-90) cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:Collapsing Pterm Limit (1-90).
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Output Slew Rate cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:I/O Pin Termination cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Macrocell Power Setting cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Collapsing Pterm Limit (1-90) cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Output Slew Rate cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:Output Slew Rate.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:I/O Pin Termination cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:I/O Pin Termination.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Macrocell Power Setting cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:Macrocell Power Setting.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:434 - DesignStrategies: The property Fit:Collapsing Pterm Limit (1-90) cannot be found. Please confirm that the property is specified properly and applies to the target device.
WARNING:ProjectMgmt:462 - StrategyManager: Couldn't find the property instance for Fit:Collapsing Pterm Limit (1-90).

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:20
by terriblefire
I've never seen that menu... You need to pick in from the left menu otherwise its only implemented strategically when exhaustive fitting

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I dont think you're doing what you think you are....

EDIT: I *really* hate the ISE interface..

Re: REV 3 - The beginning

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:26
by exxos
terriblefire wrote: 06 Apr 2021 22:20 I've never seen that menu... You need to pick in from the left menu otherwise its only implemented strategically when exhaustive fitting
I dont think you're doing what you think you are....

EDIT: I *really* hate the ISE interface..
ah its one of those tiny icons near fit... Yeah I hate all these interfaces, why I like the Atmel stuff as its like notepad with a compiler! :lol:

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