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stephen_usher wrote: 24 Jan 2021 16:43

exxos wrote: 24 Jan 2021 15:01 Also the curve ball is, what deal we have with the EU now, I think free trade was agreed for our fishing waters. At least for the next 5 years :shrug:

Incorrect. There's a 5 year transition for the fishing permits to catch fish in UK/EU waters, that's it.

The agreement also gives tarif-free access to the EU market (and vice versa) . .

So we gave EU fishing rights for tariff free access then.. Which is what I said...

For what it's worth, I bought stuff from Alan H. (he's based in UK) in January, had to go through the whole customs cycle with added 23% tax + custom fee. So that's pretty much it for me, no more UK orders. :(

mikro wrote: 24 Jan 2021 18:56 For what it's worth, I bought stuff from Alan H. (he's based in UK) in January, had to go through the whole customs cycle with added 23% tax + custom fee. So that's pretty much it for me, no more UK orders. :(

If the value was more than £15 ...?

exxos wrote: 24 Jan 2021 19:00

mikro wrote: 24 Jan 2021 18:56 For what it's worth, I bought stuff from Alan H. (he's based in UK) in January, had to go through the whole customs cycle with added 23% tax + custom fee. So that's pretty much it for me, no more UK orders. :(

If the value was more than £15 ...?

Yes. In Slovakia it's about 22 EUR, anything above that has to be taxed. So for me it was 100 GBP + nice 23 GBP on top of that.

Just got this email ...

A fellow atarist in France just said on FB that he had to pay 50% in various import taxes for the last order he placed on your shop.

olivier.jan wrote: 25 Jan 2021 18:58 Let’s see... I ordered from your shop just before receiving the email, we’ll see if I m requested to pay for this one too :cry:

Let me know if you get charged.. I mean I could understand VAT + "Admin" charges.. but this shouldn't happen as EU & UK are supposed to have a deal now... if people are getting billed, then we can't have and its a load of BS.

RM normally charge £8 "admin" + VAT but this could be anything overseas. If there are more charges than that, then there really shouldn't be..

Following some further discussions on FB, it seems to be UPS specific and some people had this from UPS even before Brexit, so let’s see with further orders as long as they don’t go through UPS.

exxos wrote: 25 Jan 2021 19:37 Let me know if you get charged.. I mean I could understand VAT + "Admin" charges.. but this shouldn't happen as EU & UK are supposed to have a deal now... if people are getting billed, then we can't have and its a load of BS.

The deal is a (mostly) zero tariff deal - that is all. It is not a free trade deal and we left the EU VAT system. For small sellers like us it is no better (or materially different) to no deal TBH.

Buyers from the EU will get charged VAT and fees same as if they'd ordered from the USA say. Crippling for small value small business.

Ok, so I just checked some documents on the french Customs web site, they have dedicated documents concerning brexit.
What they say: if you order online from Uk, there are two possibilities
1. Products are made in UK: you only pay VAT (20% here)
2. Products are sent from UK but not made in UK: you pay taxes + VAT....but if the value (excluding shipping) is below 150€ you don’t have to pay taxes, only VAT is due.

So basically, UPS screwed me. :mad:

Ps: for UK shops they recommend that you clearly specify on the invoice that your products are made in UK

Well, my order is placed, now wait and see...