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Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 21:10
by darkxavier
Ian Gledhill at Mutant Caterpillar has 19 DSP chips in stock. 👍

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 21:55
by mrbombermillzy
darkxavier wrote: 21 Aug 2020 21:10 Ian Gledhill at Mutant Caterpillar has 19 DSP chips in stock. 👍
Sounds promising. Thankyou.

I will send an email his way.

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 22 Aug 2020 12:42
by sety
mrbombermillzy wrote: 21 Aug 2020 13:49 IIRC Isnt the Falcon CPU a 'custom job' too?
I don't think so. Atari could have put in a large order for them, so they may look a little unique. I'm told that any ordinary QFP 68030 will work just fine but I'm yet to try it.

I have a Falcon I was working on during lockdown and the Freescale 68030 finally arrived, but our state is out of lockdown now and I have an attack of the lazies.

Perhaps when the "second wave" comes I'll tackle it. :D

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 22 Aug 2020 13:12
by mrbombermillzy
sety wrote: 22 Aug 2020 12:42
mrbombermillzy wrote: 21 Aug 2020 13:49 IIRC Isnt the Falcon CPU a 'custom job' too?
I don't think so. Atari could have put in a large order for them, so they may look a little unique. I'm told that any ordinary QFP 68030 will work just fine but I'm yet to try it.

I have a Falcon I was working on during lockdown and the Freescale 68030 finally arrived, but our state is out of lockdown now and I have an attack of the lazies.

Perhaps when the "second wave" comes I'll tackle it. :D
Perhaps you are right. Doug Little was looking at replacing the custom 68030 in the Falcon with the more standardised QFP version to see if its the same. (I cant find the thread at AF ATM).

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 23 Aug 2020 04:25
by Umberto1st
mrbombermillzy wrote: 22 Aug 2020 13:12
sety wrote: 22 Aug 2020 12:42

I don't think so. Atari could have put in a large order for them, so they may look a little unique. I'm told that any ordinary QFP 68030 will work just fine but I'm yet to try it.

I have a Falcon I was working on during lockdown and the Freescale 68030 finally arrived, but our state is out of lockdown now and I have an attack of the lazies.

Perhaps when the "second wave" comes I'll tackle it. :D
Perhaps you are right. Doug Little was looking at replacing the custom 68030 in the Falcon with the more standardised QFP version to see if its the same. (I cant find the thread at AF ATM).
Falcon 030's are not custom

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 23 Aug 2020 12:48
by mrbombermillzy
Umberto1st wrote: 23 Aug 2020 04:25
Falcon 030's are not custom
Well, Im not going to argue, as Im no CPU package expert, but according to the info here:

https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... fp#p222904

the Falcon version was either designed as a controller for something else and re-purposed for the Falcon, or designed specifically for it.

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 23 Aug 2020 15:08
by Umberto1st
mrbombermillzy wrote: 23 Aug 2020 12:48
Umberto1st wrote: 23 Aug 2020 04:25
Falcon 030's are not custom
Well, Im not going to argue, as Im no CPU package expert, but according to the info here:

https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... fp#p222904

the Falcon version was either designed as a controller for something else and re-purposed for the Falcon, or designed specifically for it.
Doesn't matter what Atari had stamped on the chip,' They are FE variants and very common, Replaced a few in my days, including my own Falcons. Check it out online MC68030FE. The Falcon will have 16's sometimes 20's installed. I have 33's in mine because I over clock the CPU with the Nemesis.

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 23 Aug 2020 15:49
by mrbombermillzy
Umberto1st wrote: 23 Aug 2020 15:08
Doesn't matter what Atari had stamped on the chip,' They are FE variants and very common, Replaced a few in my days, including my own Falcons. Check it out online MC68030FE. The Falcon will have 16's sometimes 20's installed. I have 33's in mine because I over clock the CPU
Ok, well thats good to have that confirmed then. :)

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 24 Feb 2022 10:24
by qq1975b
I have one too with a regular 68030 and it works OK.