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Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 14:38
by mrbombermillzy
Dammit! @rubber_jonnie all this Elk Pron; nice photos and the like is really making me struggle with NOT fetching it out of the loft.

Especially as I just bought that Aydin monitor which is still out and came with the RGBI beeb lead (which I imagine the Elk also has?).

There's some games very accessible on the shelf, and I have a portable cassette player around the same location as the elk.

Can sort a 16v DC PSU too easily; in fact, the only thing really stopping the show is the lack of a cassette interfacing cable. (I may even have that in my connoisseur computer lead collection).

I sense a trip back to that game shop soon...

Hang on. TIME. That's what I don't have, TIME! :lol:

I am intrigued, however, like @stephen_usher as to what the differences are between the beeb and Elk versions of Elite.

I would imagine, that, like mentioned, the video modes are different, but I was wondering also whether the same missions, no of ships, thargoids, etc are in the game?

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 14:53
by stephen_usher
I'm not sure. I think someone on Stardot has investigated the differences in every version.

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 14:54
by stephen_usher
rubber_jonnie wrote: 02 Mar 2022 14:29
stephen_usher wrote: 02 Mar 2022 13:52 I wonder if the full BBC version of Elite (rather than Electron specific one) will work on the expanded machine.
Loads and screen corrupts, so no it doesn't work on the Electron it would seem.
Yeah, probably can't swap modes on the fly in the same way as on the Beeb.

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 14:55
by rubber_jonnie
mrbombermillzy wrote: 02 Mar 2022 14:38 Dammit! @rubber_jonnie all this Elk Pron; nice photos and the like is really making me struggle with NOT fetching it out of the loft.

Especially as I just bought that Aydin monitor which is still out and came with the RGBI beeb lead (which I imagine the Elk also has?).

There's some games very accessible on the shelf, and I have a portable cassette player around the same location as the elk.

Can sort a 16v DC PSU too easily; in fact, the only thing really stopping the show is the lack of a cassette interfacing cable. (I may even have that in my connoisseur computer lead collection).

I sense a trip back to that game shop soon...

Hang on. TIME. That's what I don't have, TIME! :lol:

I am intrigued, however, like @stephen_usher as to what the differences are between the beeb and Elk versions of Elite.

I would imagine, that, like mentioned, the video modes are different, but I was wondering also whether the same missions, no of ships, thargoids, etc are in the game?
Ahh, go on, you know you want to :)

As for differences, there's some detail here: https://www.bbcelite.com/electron/

Definitely cut down compared to the Beeb version

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 15:14
by mrbombermillzy
rubber_jonnie wrote: 02 Mar 2022 14:55 As for differences, there's some detail here: https://www.bbcelite.com/electron/

Definitely cut down compared to the Beeb version
Well, I've had a quick look around and...apparently not so much:



It seems there are several versions, some quite close to the beeb original.

The guy in the linked YT vid has a pimped Elk with 64Kb and an ARM (RPi) co-processor. There's definitely stuff on that version that the site you linked said was missing from the original.

It's like one of those answers that just make you ask more questions... :roll:

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 15:22
by rubber_jonnie
mrbombermillzy wrote: 02 Mar 2022 15:14
rubber_jonnie wrote: 02 Mar 2022 14:55 As for differences, there's some detail here: https://www.bbcelite.com/electron/

Definitely cut down compared to the Beeb version
The guy in the linked YT vid has a pimped Elk with 64Kb and an ARM (RPi) co-processor. There's definitely stuff on that version that the site you linked said was missing from the original.

Its like one of those answers that just make you ask more questions... :roll:
If we are talking the unadulterated version, then there are differences you can't escape. Trouble is, over the years since Elite came out, a lot has been done to address those differences, but the same site does have a good guide here: https://www.bbcelite.com/compare/versions_of_elite.html

It's kind of made me think about a 2nd 6502 for one of my Beebs, just for Elite :)

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 15:28
by stephen_usher
rubber_jonnie wrote: 02 Mar 2022 15:22 It's kind of made me think about a 2nd 6502 for one of my Beebs, just for Elite :)
Or a PiTube 2nd processor.

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 15:37
by rubber_jonnie
stephen_usher wrote: 02 Mar 2022 15:28
rubber_jonnie wrote: 02 Mar 2022 15:22 It's kind of made me think about a 2nd 6502 for one of my Beebs, just for Elite :)
Or a PiTube 2nd processor.
Funnily enough, I was just thinking the same thing :)

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 15:57
by mrbombermillzy
Well, I was unaware there were so many versions of Elite for Acorn machines, even down to beeb disk/tape versions being different.

(I guess that is a representation of the customisation options available to them these days).

Re: Uh Oh.Electron inbound

Posted: 02 Mar 2022 16:27
by rubber_jonnie
mrbombermillzy wrote: 02 Mar 2022 15:57 Well, I was unaware there were so many versions of Elite for Acorn machines, even down to beeb disk/tape versions being different.

(I guess that is a representation of the customisation options available to them these days).
:dizzy: