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Re: PAK issues
Posted: 07 Jun 2019 08:58
by PhilC
Great benchmark Frank. I'll be upgrading mine to 50mhz when I get the time. Then I'm looking at something like a Mega ST to ET4000 adaptor if I can find one, if not I'll try and make one.
Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 16:01
by bbisi
Hello People
Is here anybody who can help me
Im not so good in English. Sorry
I make a Pak68/3 and now the test with error screen black.
I make all tests you write in this article.
No booting
All Ics are correct in socket
These Things are on board
Board Ver Pak68/3 030 3A
FPU MC68882RC50A , Cpu MC68030RC50, Quarz 32MHZ, Tag Ram MK48S74N-20, U3=74F86, 5 Gals 20V8B 15LP, 1 Gal U3 16V8 10LP, 4 Eeproms 27C010 120ns AMD,
Is anyone here who has an super idea
Fotos I send in a few minutes
Greeting
Bernd
Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 16:11
by bbisi
Here som pics
IMG_1869 2.JPG
IMG_1868 2.JPG
IMG_1867 2.JPG
IMG_1865.JPG
The bridges are from the test. But the screen is black
+5 and GND are ok
When I put the 68000 on the mainboard all is running
only with pak68 the screen is black
hmm
i dont know
Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 16:36
by rubber_jonnie
exxos wrote: 26 Jan 2019 17:53
Forgottenmyname wrote: 25 Jan 2019 16:36
.. as my PAK still doesn't work and I know everything else on it does.
Was this pak020 or 030? I have a pak020 and tried multiple setups and never got it working. Though I sent it to RJ and he says it works fine on his machines. I even have the same motherboard as him, also tried various PSUs and voltages and just doesn't work on my boards.
Oddly I did have it working once as I benchmarked it.. It pretty much went in my draw, came out months later, likely out in same motherboard and never worked since. Best I get I think I got was a row of bombs on the screen.
And I have a PAK 20 too that works just fine on mine. I think yours was an earlier revision
@exxos as it had bodge wires that mine doesn't.
Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 16:39
by Darklord
@bbisi
Okay, maybe I'm missing something but is that board fully populated?
Mine looks like this:
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Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 17:12
by exxos
rubber_jonnie wrote: 05 Jul 2025 16:36
And I have a PAK 20 too that works just fine on mine. I think yours was an earlier revision @exxos as it had bodge wires that mine doesn't.
Yeah I believe so. I gave up trying to get it to work in the end. Worked on your boards but none of mine.
Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 21:38
by bbisi
hi Darklord
the board on the picture is the samePak68/3-030. rev3A
I bought it from cosmos
No the pictures shows them searching the error ( black screen) like this
I give a complete foto
I used this method :
Post by pakman ยป 05 Feb 2019 17:39
The 64pin sockets (up and down) are in the right place.
Let's try with the 68000 on top again, removing the GALs step by step. With U3 still removed, connect with short wires:
U3 pin9 to U3 pin19
U3 pin11 to U3 pin14
U3 pin12 to U3 pin15
Jumpers J5 and J6 both open
Assemble the 68000 on top, and try to boot..
and this
Next: Remove all GALs and all ROMs.
The only ICs on the board are now: 68030, FPU, 74F74 and the 68000 on top.
SRAMs may stay in place if soldered.
Connect on the empty socket U5 pin8 with pin12.
Connect on the empty socket U1 pin17 with pin24.
Try to boot..
That is what I do to find the error. I read them all I don't find the error
I think the error comes from the eprom or gal ????
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Re: PAK issues
Posted: 05 Jul 2025 21:53
by frank.lukas
The PCB is not an original one and not a copy from poland with a single trace missing in the layout. Are the boards functional and tested?