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Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 15 Dec 2020 22:08
by 8 Bit Dreams
You've choosed wrong slot,
this one should be occupied by this card:
https://gitlab.com/MHeinrichs/multifix-aga
2020-03-20 17.51.42.jpg
it's also four layers unfortunately.. 🤔
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 16 Dec 2020 00:45
by Lynxman
Easier access. :)
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 17 Dec 2020 22:32
by Lynxman
I rendered these on my 50 MHz 534 in the closed up A500. Found the scripts through another thread here. The fish took a little over 3 hours while the teapot was much quicker even though the resolution was higher. I guess this means my 50 MHz 534 is stable inside the A500. :) I haven't used POVray since the early 90's in MS DOS. It's actually what got me started with 3D modelling and today I design and sell 3D models online.
teapot.jpg
fish13.jpg
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 17 Dec 2020 22:41
by Cosmic Puppet
These are great! :)
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 17 Dec 2020 23:19
by Lynxman
8 Bit Dreams wrote: 15 Dec 2020 22:08
You've choosed wrong slot,
this one should be occupied by this card:
it's also four layers unfortunately.. 🤔
But are the middle layers needed for circuitry or just for ground/Vcc planes?
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 17 Dec 2020 23:27
by 8 Bit Dreams
Yes, that's normal, rendering without FPU (cpu only) takes about 2.5 hours,
while same set of pictures is done in 30 minutes if FPU is in use. This is very noticeable if You are using such programs like iBrowse for example, however You'll need more than 4MB of ram then...
Lynxman wrote: 17 Dec 2020 23:19
But are the middle layers needed for circuitry or just for ground/Vcc planes?
It'll be a pain in the a** to solder such board without solder mask anyway, and it'll be a nightmare to debug it if something goes wrong..
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 18 Dec 2020 00:17
by Lynxman
I'm very patient. ;)
It's possible to apply UV solder mask and then route off the pads with a spring V-bit. I actually made a spring V-bit today for that with my lathe. It ensures that only light pressure is applied to the PCB when milling to only remove the relatively soft solder mask. I don't want to mess with solder mask for most things though.
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 18 Dec 2020 00:19
by Lynxman
My Amiga 2000 with the 33 MHz TF534 took 3 hours 8 minutes to render the same fish picture. Why would it take the same time at 33 MHz as it did with the 50 MHz A500?
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 18 Dec 2020 00:33
by 8 Bit Dreams
Because floating point calculations is something that FPU, not cpu is supposed to do, there is no huge difference between 33 and 50MHz for cpus in rendering, it sucks in both cases, and it gets really hot when it runs @50MHz, in fact povray - is the best tool to check cpu for failure, most reprinted cpus will fail after 15-20 minutes of testing.
Re: Noob building a TF534
Posted: 18 Dec 2020 00:44
by Lynxman
Ok. I will add a FPU to one of them soon just for kicks. I bought one from the Exxos store along with a couple of TF536 PCB's.
Here's a shot of my "renderfarm":
A2000-07.jpg