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Yep. To confirm that too, I once counted 4 different screen manufacturers in one Dell laptop model type! ANY of those could have specifications beyond the one specified by Dell.exxos wrote: 13 Feb 2022 13:21 Also note that year if manufacture of any monitor is a factor. Its been noticed that boards in monitors can change over batches and you could have 2 identical monitors side by side where one would work with the ST and the other won't :roll:
FYI here is my MSTE at med res on the 1970NX:HigashiJun wrote: 13 Feb 2022 11:14 @rubber_jonnie
Thanks for your feedback.
I could also tweak the settings on my previous NEC 1990FXp but MED RES was really ugly andunusable.
Are you talking about the hollow vertical lines on the screen, because no matter what my tweaks were, they always appeared on the screen.
The EA224WMi is nice, with its integrated speakers and numerous connectors, you have more options for you retro machines.
It is a near perfect MED RES screen compared to the 1990FXp...rubber_jonnie wrote: 13 Feb 2022 19:11FYI here is my MSTE at med res on the 1970NX:HigashiJun wrote: 13 Feb 2022 11:14 @rubber_jonnie
Thanks for your feedback.
I could also tweak the settings on my previous NEC 1990FXp but MED RES was really ugly andunusable.
Are you talking about the hollow vertical lines on the screen, because no matter what my tweaks were, they always appeared on the screen.
The EA224WMi is nice, with its integrated speakers and numerous connectors, you have more options for you retro machines.
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As you can see, it isn't perfect, there are some fuzzy edges on the left edge of letters Please try to look past the moire pattern!), but it is very usable.
It is though a different aspect ratio more akin to the displays of the time, which does help.
Yes, I have heard of such stories.exxos wrote: 13 Feb 2022 13:21 Also note that year if manufacture of any monitor is a factor. Its been noticed that boards in monitors can change over batches and you could have 2 identical monitors side by side where one would work with the ST and the other won't :roll:
Seems nice, but I personally would prefer a white one just to have a better match with my ATARIs and AMIGAs.TheNameOfTheGame wrote: 13 Feb 2022 11:54 Recently it was discovered on another forum that the Dell SE2722H also works well with all ST modes and is fairly easy to acquire being that it is not discontinued.
Here is the thread: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/32938 ... works-100/
Thanks for your feedback.mrbombermillzy wrote: 13 Feb 2022 12:50From the stuff thats passed through my hands and tested at 15khz mainly for Amigas/STs. The manuals don't always give the full scanrates (I'm guessing they may play it safe in case they change screen/board details during the model lifespan) so that makes it hard to know.HigashiJun wrote: 13 Feb 2022 09:08 Is your statement based on your own experience or just an assumption based on the NEC manual ?
My NEC Multisync 1250FE+ is just really a Mitsubishi Diamondtron screen with budget electronics. By this time though (mid 90s), scanrates below 31Khz were nonstandard, so generally not bothered with.
I also have 2 NEC 1990FXp TFTs which are 15khz compatible (like yours). My 'monster' Mitsu 37" Megaview CRT also scans down to 15Khz, but then, that's from 1987, when the standards were a bit more open, I guess (C=/Atari viable customer targets still?).
I also worked as a Dell reseller engineer before covid and managed to test a few of their monitors (only a few, as we mainly dealt with reconditioned laptops). Never had any that did 15khz there, but there are some that do it apparently.
(I still have two of the Dell 27" UW TFTs and they don't; well not through RGB anyway).
HTH.
It is for sure. On my FXp, I can't even get close this good.