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Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 13 Feb 2022 23:40
by stephen_usher
That’s rather faster than the original TF536 with @agranlund’s last firmware release. You were saying that your version didn’t throttle down to 8MHz when accessing the ST hardware. Could this be retrofitted to work on the original card?
Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 13 Feb 2022 23:51
by exxos
stephen_usher wrote: 13 Feb 2022 23:40
That’s rather faster than the original TF536 with @agranlund’s last firmware release. Could this be retrofitted to work on the original card?
Basically no. I revised the hardware and firmware for the ST edition.
stephen_usher wrote: 13 Feb 2022 23:40
You were saying that your version didn’t throttle down to 8MHz when accessing the ST hardware.
It runs at 50MHz all the time even when accessing the ST bus.
Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 04:50
by stephen_usher
So, the techniques used by your changed firmware couldn’t be applied to agranlund’s code to speed the original design up then?
Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 10:45
by exxos
stephen_usher wrote: 14 Feb 2022 04:50
So, the techniques used by your changed firmware couldn’t be applied to agranlund’s code to speed the original design up then?
I had problems with the original 536 on the H4 which is why I designed a new one with fixes I knew were needed for the ST. I re-wrote pretty much the whole firmware. Which wasn't easy as I'm a n00b at verilog.
Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 11:42
by stephen_usher
Fair enough. I do remember seeing your pain of learning Verilog during your development process.
The TF536 with the current firmware is pretty hobbled unless the task is purely processor bound and using Fast-RAM exclusively.
Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 13:43
by Badwolf
stephen_usher wrote: 13 Feb 2022 20:20
Atari TT030, program run from TT-RAM: 2876 frames.
Thanks Stephen. What VBL rate is that at, please?
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Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 13:48
by Badwolf
exxos wrote: 13 Feb 2022 23:06
@Badwolf
[H5] TF526 ST Edition EMUTOS : 3140
[H5] TF526 ST Edition TOS206 : 2827
This is odd. I've never seen any difference between TOS and EmuTOS. Frontier barely touches the OS.
Is EmuTOS in ROM?
(and I assume you mean 5
36?)
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Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 14:00
by stephen_usher
Badwolf wrote: 14 Feb 2022 13:43
stephen_usher wrote: 13 Feb 2022 20:20
Atari TT030, program run from TT-RAM: 2876 frames.
Thanks Stephen. What VBL rate is that at, please?
BW
The only one that the TT can do, 60Hz (VGA-ish).
Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 14:03
by Badwolf
stephen_usher wrote: 14 Feb 2022 14:00
The only one that the TT can do, 60Hz (VGA-ish).
Ah, I didn't know it couldn't drive an old-school monitor. That's a pity. You'd be up around 3.5k if it could do RGB PAL!
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Re: FrontBench: using Frontier as a benchmark
Posted: 14 Feb 2022 14:11
by exxos
Badwolf wrote: 14 Feb 2022 13:48
This is odd. I've never seen any difference between TOS and EmuTOS. Frontier barely touches the OS.
Is EmuTOS in ROM?
(and I assume you mean 5
36?)
BW
536 yep oops.
I think its "lower ram variables" ? I will try and test the original MAPROM later, but it never worked for me. I don't get the speed up either, but thats the results I got.
But I have also noticed something peculiar Speed comparisons as well where EMUTOS when at double speed in GB6 tests than TOS206. but I really have not had time to look into it all. But with my limited knowledge of how the OS works am not really " qualified" for investigating all that stuff.