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Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 30 Oct 2021 20:50
by alenppc
Good 030 chips are getting really hard to find… I bought 15 recently and only 4 were good. Because of this, the pricing on that batch works out to $132 usd per cpu. Needless to say, because of this my TF1230s are now sold severely under cost (ie if you buy one from me, I’m losing $100 per board). Just saying this to people who complain about price :p

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 30 Oct 2021 20:51
by brostenen
alenppc wrote: 30 Oct 2021 20:50 Good 030 chips are getting really hard to find… I bought 15 recently and only 4 were good. Because of this, the pricing on that batch works out to $132 usd per cpu. Needless to say, because of this my TF1230s are now sold severely under cost (ie if you buy one from me, I’m losing $100 per board). Just saying this to people who complain about price :p
It actually crossed my mind the other day. At some point 030's will be in such a demand versus supply. That the price will go higher.

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 30 Oct 2021 22:29
by stephen_usher
I must admit that the GVP Jaws II I have in my A1200 does transform the machine. I did find a larger GVP SIMM a couple of years ago which helped too. So I’m not in the market for another board. If I had another A1200 I might be in the market, but they’re so massively expensive that there’s very little chance of that.

Original 030 accelerators are still massively expensive on eBay.

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 30 Oct 2021 22:43
by arkadiusz.makarenko
50Mhz capable 030 were are already vacuumed by TF536 and TF330

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 30 Oct 2021 23:38
by terriblefire
brostenen wrote: 30 Oct 2021 20:51
alenppc wrote: 30 Oct 2021 20:50 Good 030 chips are getting really hard to find… I bought 15 recently and only 4 were good. Because of this, the pricing on that batch works out to $132 usd per cpu. Needless to say, because of this my TF1230s are now sold severely under cost (ie if you buy one from me, I’m losing $100 per board). Just saying this to people who complain about price :p
It actually crossed my mind the other day. At some point 030's will be in such a demand versus supply. That the price will go higher.
Basically this is why i think Software defined processors are the future.

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 31 Oct 2021 00:26
by Danoo
terriblefire wrote: 30 Oct 2021 20:08 Well i'm an original hardware aficionado. The idea of putting a pi in my chase hq cab makes me sick... thats a hint at what i'm working on btw.
Yes, this is exactly how I see it as well, having a modern day PI inside defeats the purpose of the term 'Retro computer'. :roll:

Edit:
Am I being a purist? I certainly am :D, but is that not the whole point of collecting old hardware? ;)

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 21:38
by brostenen
terriblefire wrote: 30 Oct 2021 23:38
brostenen wrote: 30 Oct 2021 20:51 It actually crossed my mind the other day. At some point 030's will be in such a demand versus supply. That the price will go higher.
Basically this is why i think Software defined processors are the future.
Personally I am following the RaspberryPI EMU68 project close. Bare metal programming and it looks like it will always be allowed to only run CPU and Ram. I mean, sound and all other stuff are on the 500 mainboard anyway, so why the PiStorm looks like RTG and all that jazz will be integrated is something that I simply don't understand. There are so many other cheap expansions for the 500 anyway, like CPU-Socket HDD adaptors/ports and Gotek. There are RGBtoHDMI as well. But yeah... I do fully understand and accept that people want everything integrated into PiStorm. And that is why I am more interested in EMU68 instead.

Else we can just fetch us an PI-400 and go fully emulation. But that is not my thing either. Good for a different segment of users though.

Re: Why nobody cares about 030 A1200 accelerators

Posted: 03 Nov 2021 21:46
by brostenen
Danoo wrote: 31 Oct 2021 00:26
terriblefire wrote: 30 Oct 2021 20:08 Well i'm an original hardware aficionado. The idea of putting a pi in my chase hq cab makes me sick... thats a hint at what i'm working on btw.
Yes, this is exactly how I see it as well, having a modern day PI inside defeats the purpose of the term 'Retro computer'. :roll:

Edit:
Am I being a purist? I certainly am :D, but is that not the whole point of collecting old hardware? ;)
An Amiga purist in my book is someone who will never use any Amiga hardware that are made after the late 1990's. ;-)