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Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 15 Jul 2020 18:26
by Maximilian
The question is what causes the issue:
1. Lower or higher voltage
2. Ripple
3. Voltage drop
4. Something else misbehaving due to the above.

Missing something?

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 23 Jul 2020 09:41
by sascha.springer
Damn. After replacing my floppy disk drive with a Gotek device the issue is back. :shock:

I need to add that I have an IDE „backpack“ solution installed which works fine so far all the years. Probably I need another DMA hardware fix like the pull-up resistors on the bus?!

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 23 Jul 2020 11:08
by Steve
sascha.springer wrote: 23 Jul 2020 09:41 Damn. After replacing my floppy disk drive with a Gotek device the issue is back. :shock:

I need to add that I have an IDE „backpack“ solution installed which works fine so far all the years. Probably I need another DMA hardware fix like the pull-up resistors on the bus?!
Hi Sasha

In your first post you mention replacing your psu with a new psu - just to clarify, what was the new psu? A completely new model or a new old stock etc? I ask because if you replaced it with an original model, the caps could still be 30 years old.

And besides that I would recommend the DMA pullup fixes & re-cap your main board.

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 23 Jul 2020 20:52
by sascha.springer
Steve wrote: 23 Jul 2020 11:08 Hi Sasha

In your first post you mention replacing your psu with a new psu - just to clarify, what was the new psu? A completely new model or a new old stock etc? I ask because if you replaced it with an original model, the caps could still be 30 years old.

And besides that I would recommend the DMA pullup fixes & re-cap your main board.
The PSU has been replaced with a completely new one.

Is there an overview of the caps on the mainboard to be replaced?

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 24 Jul 2020 09:13
by sascha.springer
Today I checked when the issue appears after a cold start and with the new PSU it returns after about one hour.

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 24 Jul 2020 11:16
by exxos
Have you changed the bus pullups ?

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 00:49
by sascha.springer
exxos wrote: 24 Jul 2020 11:16 Have you changed the bus pullups ?
No, not yet. I‘ll have a look on the mainboard today if there is something suspicious.

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 20:33
by sascha.springer
Image of the mainboard:
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RAMs (is the type a possible source of the issue?):
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Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 21:28
by JezC
I think @exxos has posted in a few places that the ST/STE's can be fussy when SIMMs with parity are used...and if there are only the 3 chips on each SIM then I'm pretty sure the third is for parity.

So, there's a fair chance this will be one possible issue - I think you can just de-solder the third memory device (it's usually a different part number from the other two as it's a quarter of the memory capacity) - which might be the easiest course of action if you don't have any other spare memory available.

Certainly worth ruling this out before going for more drastic potential solution IMHO

Re: PSU related Blitter issues (Atari STE)

Posted: 25 Jul 2020 21:32
by Tomswork
There are three traces that can be cut on 30 pin parity simms. It is these traces to the socket that can cause a short

Edit

Pin 26 28 and 29 i believe

Tom