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Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 21:48
by Cosmic Puppet
I'm running YAART now from a floppy disk. It's at pass 2. Test #3 and so far no errors.

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 21:50
by exxos
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 21:48 I'm running YAART now from a floppy disk. It's at pass 2. Test #3 and so far no errors.
You'll need to leave the machine running for a long time, as you said before it crashes after it has been on for a long time, so you need to replicate this by just running the RAM test program. I would think you would need to run it for 12 hours.

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 21:56
by Cosmic Puppet
exxos wrote: 11 Oct 2019 15:57 For repairs and upgrades I would contact Steve on here.. I don't know where either of you are in the world though.
I live in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire. Sounds like I need someone who can look at the whole system.

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 21:59
by exxos
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 21:56 I live in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire. Sounds like I need someone who can look at the whole system.
So what voltage are you running that PSU on then 230V UK ?

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 22:05
by Cosmic Puppet
exxos wrote: 11 Oct 2019 21:50
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 21:48 I'm running YAART now from a floppy disk. It's at pass 2. Test #3 and so far no errors.
You'll need to leave the machine running for a long time, as you said before it crashes after it has been on for a long time, so you need to replicate this by just running the RAM test program. I would think you would need to run it for 12 hours.
That's seems to have changed. Notator now crashes upon loading. Music Mouse works, which is why I wondered about the Dongle as it's the thing that's different and was crashing on the machine I gave up which had previously run for 14 years. I thought getting a new machine would help. It looks awesome, but...

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 22:08
by Cosmic Puppet
exxos wrote: 11 Oct 2019 21:59
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 21:56 I live in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire. Sounds like I need someone who can look at the whole system.
So what voltage are you running that PSU on then 230V UK ?
Running it through a stepdown transformer which has 2 American 110V outputs. My machine would be fine if I didn't need Notator. Floppy drive works. Ultrasatan works. All 14 drives working. Muh.

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 22:15
by exxos
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 22:08 Running it through a stepdown transformer which has 2 American 110V outputs. My machine would be fine if I didn't need Notator. Floppy drive works. Ultrasatan works. All 14 drives working. Muh.
I really would suggest getting a proper UK PSU, even a original, but get it recapped properly at least.

When you have run YAART for 12 hours and confirm its stable (don't run for less time!) Then run for another 12 hours with Notator plugged in and see what happens.

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 22:22
by Cosmic Puppet
exxos wrote: 11 Oct 2019 22:15
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 22:08 Running it through a stepdown transformer which has 2 American 110V outputs. My machine would be fine if I didn't need Notator. Floppy drive works. Ultrasatan works. All 14 drives working. Muh.
I really would suggest getting a proper UK PSU, even a original, but get it recapped properly at least.

When you have run YAART for 12 hours and confirm its stable (don't run for less time!) Then run for another 12 hours with Notator plugged in and see what happens.
Wish I knew this when I sold my old UK machine. Thanks, will do. I see your RAM upgrade would involve cutting the shielding on my board. I would like to try and work with the Marpet if possible. I'm also thinking of getting my hands on another Notator Dongle. Would a faulty dongle definitely show up on this test?

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 22:29
by exxos
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 22:22 Would a faulty dongle definitely show up on this test?
It's the loading on the dongle on the bus which is why the test is being done. You first prove your machine is stable without the dongle, then try with the dongle to see if RAM becomes unstable.

Re: Atari still crashing after power supply recap.

Posted: 11 Oct 2019 22:32
by Cosmic Puppet
exxos wrote: 11 Oct 2019 22:29
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 11 Oct 2019 22:22 Would a faulty dongle definitely show up on this test?
It's the loading on the dongle on the bus which is why the test is being done. You first prove your machine is stable without the dongle, then try with the dongle to see if RAM becomes unstable.
Okay thanks. Gonna leave it on while I sleep so I can have both 12 hour tests done by tomorrow night.