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Age Verification For OS Installation?

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russellnash wrote: 05 Mar 2026 06:48 Do you have any problems with accessing websites on your old systems, telling you that you are not using the latest browser and what you have is not supported?
I bloody ran into this a couple of days ago.

My car doesn't have a physical manual any more. Online only.

Aaaaand the manufacturer's website refuses to load on my iPad as the OS is not supported!

Tried a couple of different browsers hoping it would lie about the OS for me. Only three browsers are supported too!

FFS.

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Vipersan wrote: 04 Mar 2026 18:02 Seriously though I still use windows 7 as my main PC..and regularly clone the OS hard drive.
I am still on win7. I run a filtered IP, run ad blockers of various kinda, got a good antivirus etc. My girlfriend is on win7. Shes always downloading crap off the internet. So I am waiting to see how long win7 will really take before it gets hacked. In theory my girlfriends PC would get hacked first. But theres nothing important on it anyway. So nobody cares. When that day happens, it will give me a heads up as to how it was done. Worst-case, I unplug it from the net. I already have MX linux installed ready for such a event.
I stopped upgrading a long time ago as I hated windows 10 with a passion.
I said the same, my girlfriends mum had it for years. We seem to have just went back to totally blank white squares with text on which makes it visually worse than Windows 3.11 and runs slower! She had actually three antivirus programs running which really does not help, and she has had that much malware and ransomware on her PC.. So much for having all the latest security features in Windows which did absolutely nothing !

Plus I still use my floppy drive, if I remember rightly they even remove functionality for that in windows 10 ? It was a bit of a pain getting it to work with my more recent Ryzen motherboard. Ended up hacking in a USB floppy drive as they don't put floppy headers on them anymore :(
This is imo a step to far..they whoever they are want to control every aspect of your life..
yeah most people seem to say its basically spyware at this point. It's pretty much a daily video on stuff which is broken and with enforcing bloatware down everyone's throats..
You basically rent the operating system these days...you dont own it...and with the advent of TPM chips you dont really own the hardware either.
There was a interesting discussion on Linus tech tips the other day.. Basically they are saying with a power of AI systems, it is a possibility that desktop hardware will not be powerful enough to run the latest games in the future. It could become a point where you basically login to some gaming AI system and they basically just stream the frames to you.. For a price of course... You don't own the game and you don't own the hardware.. Certainly sad times to how things used to be....

Going back some years now, while graphics improve , which is great of course, some car games are realistic to the point where it just looks like me driving to work now.. I just don't see it as any fun anymore. Is it was more of a virtual "fantasy" type world and its more appealing to me.

I haven't been able to play games for some years now because of my RSI :( the only game I really go back to is UT2004. Its direct IP, no servers involved. It just works and I own it ! All the games I have really liked, the server goes off-line and the company simply doesn't care, then the game is gone forever :cry: a lot of games you cannot do direct IP anymore anyway. Thats a dealbreaker right out of the gate for me.
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So..not just me then..
Lets hear it for Win7... :D
I recently built a dedicated DOS based PC with ISA slots which enabled me to install a quad flop card..
Had to send for this to the US of A
Its a cool machine..sporting 4 floppy drives..
An actual 1.44mb 3.5" ...a genuine 720k only 3.5" (from a Kaypro if I remember correctly)..a rare beast indeed..
A 5.25" 360k drive and a 5.25" 1.2mb drive.
All drives of course are accessible from DOS ..but interestingly all are useable from win3.11...but not from 95 or 98..
4 floppy drives is a no no ..and causes the computer not to boot.
Why would anyone want such a thing.
Using dos programs such as IMD ..I can read and write just about any format...an absolute must for retro nerds like myself.

I also built a computer with an IDE hard drive caddy system ...
chose a mobo that sits nicely at the turning point from FAT to NTFS.
This allows it to run DOS..Win3.1...Win95...Win98...WinNT...Win2000...WinMe(spit)...WinXP...WinVista...and Win7 albeit not fast enough for gaming with Win7..
At some point I want to include OS2 ...but only if I can find more swappable caddies..
Here are a few photos.

I'm also into archiving..I have a dedicated computer for that as well...a DELL SFF to which I can connect my Kryoflux...or SupercardPro...or Greaseweazle.
Errr...yep I love floppies.
Dont judge me too harshly.
lol
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Cool!
I use floppies every day. Other than they are a bit slow, who cares :) I can swap between PC and ST easily. Beats fighting with all the iffy CF USB card stuff which only works when it feels like it!

I got a hackjob 5.25" drive somewhere for ST B: drive. Will have to see if it still works at some point. Think I've got a couple real floppies somewhere.
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Badwolf wrote: 05 Mar 2026 17:09
russellnash wrote: 05 Mar 2026 06:48 Do you have any problems with accessing websites on your old systems, telling you that you are not using the latest browser and what you have is not supported?
I bloody ran into this a couple of days ago.

My car doesn't have a physical manual any more. Online only.

Aaaaand the manufacturer's website refuses to load on my iPad as the OS is not supported!

Tried a couple of different browsers hoping it would lie about the OS for me. Only three browsers are supported too!

FFS.

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Yes, a perfect example, they purposely make things artificially inaccessible by doing away with paper and then dictating which Operating System and Browser you may use to access the alternative version.
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So if you put a TOS upgrade ROM into your ST how will the age verification work ?
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Good question. :D . We could ask Micosoft if they managed to finish the version of Windows for the ST that they were going to make before the Tramiels worked ou that it might be a bad idea. Certainly when the Atari ST is banned by the European Commission, which is likely because they ban everything, I will still use mine.
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russellnash wrote: 08 Mar 2026 06:48 . Certainly when the Atari ST is banned by the European Commission, which is likely because they ban everything, I will still use mine.
Yeah eu crushed the secondhand market and vintage items due to all their stupid regulations already. Considering they are hellbent on recycling and reducing environmental waste, then create a huge amount of waste by blocking the secondhand market totally is rather ironic isn't it. People just have no clue what's happening, which is pretty sad by itself.

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