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Swissfalcon wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:26 pm Yes, this is what I have and what you see on my pic with the headers. Works great. The main problem to me with the CTPCI is that the hacked TOS don't let old demos or games run correctly.

A new batch of Supervidel will sell like hotcakes, we are so many people moaning to see one on sale again :-)
I don't think anything ever sells like hotcakes in Atari world :lol: :roll:

I don't know anything about the software side of things, but I can only do the hardware for both projects, but it's still the problems that I would need the PCB files etc if they are not in Eagle or kicad format then that overly complicates things even more, which may be out of my scope to fix, unless there is some conversion utilities..

but I would imagine the cost of producing them again would likely be double to what it once was. Finding parts could be problematic as I have no idea what is used on the board, but obtaining all parts, I generally have a lot of suppliers that can help in that respect.
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exxos wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:36 pm I don't think anything ever sells like hotcakes in Atari world :lol: :roll:
Pretty sure SV would... just imagine, literally hundreds of Falcon owners who have lusted over the SV for years. One guy spent 800 euro's on a second hand SV (and faulty) one back in 2019. Nobody would dare miss the chance on a new version. Just look at the ATW800 cards, they've been 100% selling out 50 batches at a time, because people want graphics cards so badly.
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Steve wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:59 pm Pretty sure SV would... just imagine, literally hundreds of Falcon owners who have lusted over the SV for years. One guy spent 800 euro's on a second hand SV (and faulty) one back in 2019. Nobody would dare miss the chance on a new version. Just look at the ATW800 cards, they've been 100% selling out 50 batches at a time, because people want graphics cards so badly.
I shall remain skeptical there about mass sales :) I could do with something good selling to get me out of the ever increasing hole I'm in. I can't talk about ATW800, generally 5-10 would seem more realistic sales from what I've seen of stuff which sells.

People always tend to want things until it's time to pay up and there will always be the odd crazy person paying huge amounts for junk.

But it doesn't matter anyway as the files are not available. If I had them and there wasn't a load of drama involved, I could price stuff up and see if it's even possible. I'd assume if it was simply enough that someone else would have done it years ago by now anyway.
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alexh wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:01 pm
exxos wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:20 pm I think someone said SV doesn't fit either, but no idea about that as I never owned one. Would likely need a rework, but basically a dead end if files were never published anyway.
IIUC they fit together and work but you can't close the Falcon030 desktop case afterwards (unlike CT60/CT63?)

This was my reference :

https://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=332633#p332633
Nonsense, I use CT60e & SuperVidel in the original case every day. I can even fit EtherNAT on top of that. The whole point of moving CT60e to the front was to get it out of the keyboard's way.
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Oh and I would like to point out that SV has a serious issue which is probably never going to be fixed, unless you get also VHDL code with it. Basically it works in 1.03c just by chance. Doesn't work in 1.05 example. Just a warning for a potential mass producer for support nightmare.
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I shall remain skeptical there about mass sales :) I could do with something good selling to get me out of the ever increasing hole I'm in. I can't talk about ATW800, generally 5-10 would seem more realistic sales from what I've seen of stuff which sells.

People always tend to want things until it's time to pay up and there will always be the odd crazy person paying huge amounts for junk.

But it doesn't matter anyway as the files are not available. If I had them and there wasn't a load of drama involved, I could price stuff up and see if it's even possible. I'd assume if it was simply enough that someone else would have done it years ago by now anyway.
Just in my club here in Switzerland you will have 5 orders the same day as you open a pre-order. And I'm pretty sure that many CT60 users will be happy to prepay.
But totally, without the files, it's not possible. maybe it could be a good start to ask Nature, they gave the right to do it to Centuriontech, so it's possible...
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Swissfalcon wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:34 pm Just in my club here in Switzerland you will have 5 orders the same day as you open a pre-order. And I'm pretty sure that many CT60 users will be happy to prepay.
But totally, without the files, it's not possible. maybe it could be a good start to ask Nature, they gave the right to do it to Centuriontech, so it's possible...
I don't know anyone involved with the project at Nature. TBH every time I offer help or try to engage with people outside of this forum, it always ends in me regretting it.

If someone else wants to engage with them, then fine. I can get hardware built, the limitations are time and money as normal. But I can probably make it happen.

But I cannot solve outstanding firmware or software issues or be involved in any support. I will make hardware and thats it. If I had all the code, I can look, but trying to debug someone else's projects when I know nothing about it all.. It be a huge time sink and headache I don't want.

It sounds like multiple people have had their hand in the firmware now. Sounds like fix one thing break something else to me. I can do hardware yes, production yes, I can't fix everyone's problem with projects, I just don't have time or energy for it anymore. Not saying I won't offer help, but I've got a backlog of my own problems to solve yet.
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Seems that everybody wants @exxos to do the hardware stuff at all costs... ;)

Even though Centuriontech's project dates back to 2022, it might be worth the wait. Who knows...

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The DVI connector is now obsolete and should be definitely replaced by an HDMI one.
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HigashiJun wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:07 pm Seems that everybody wants @exxos to do the hardware stuff at all costs... ;)
Maybe my soldering is better ;)

But now 3 years and no SV? If nature gave him the files they maybe wouldn't give to me as well. :shrug:
The DVI connector is now obsolete and should be definitely replaced by an HDMI one.
Why obsolete? HDMI connectors require expensive licences and don't do analog.

But I dont think it's worth having such discussions at this point. Anything can be made really. But at this point I think it's unlikely to happen.
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exxos wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:12 am Maybe my soldering is better ;)
That's the reason for sure ! :lol:
exxos wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:12 am But now 3 years and no SV? If nature gave him the files they maybe wouldn't give to me as well. :shrug:

Why obsolete? HDMI connectors require expensive licences and don't do analog.

But I dont think it's worth having such discussions at this point. Anything can be made really. But at this point I think it's unlikely to happen.
Yes, you're totally right on that points.

I have also found this old thread from another forum:

https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=466543

So there seems to be no more hope...
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