I'm afraid that all the info I've gathered about Amiga faults have come from people fixing them in YouTube videos. :-)
(e.g. Adrian's Digital Basement, CRG and Jan Beta to name a few.)
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A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
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stephen_usher
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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JezC
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Well, thanks for those names - gives me a bit more to research about! :)stephen_usher wrote: 20 Dec 2023 15:21 I'm afraid that all the info I've gathered about Amiga faults have come from people fixing them in YouTube videos. :-)
(e.g. Adrian's Digital Basement, CRG and Jan Beta to name a few.)
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
And the second board is another B52 Rock Lobster...doing a major rebuild of the embedded s/w for one of our products gave me just enough time to make a cuppa & remove the top metalwork & reveal the work of art beneath...
Now where did I put those Gotek drives...?
Now where did I put those Gotek drives...?
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Oooh, good stuff.JezC wrote: 20 Dec 2023 14:05Boots OK with the keyboard from the "working" A500 (well, had time at lunch to just disassemble the working A500 & move the keyboard across and try one boot with it)...
Later I'll try the suspect keyboard in the "working" system...
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Much as I was thinking :)Higgy wrote: 20 Dec 2023 14:22
I wonder if your keyboard just has 'something' on the membrane causing multiple key presses being simulated causing the boot issue.
Just the other day on eBay there were a few Keyboard Controllers for sale. Membranes also easy to get.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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JezC
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Booting issue moves with the keyboard, so that helps narrow the investigation down hugely - thanks all!rubber_jonnie wrote: 20 Dec 2023 15:53Oooh, good stuff.JezC wrote: 20 Dec 2023 14:05
Boots OK with the keyboard from the "working" A500 (well, had time at lunch to just disassemble the working A500 & move the keyboard across and try one boot with it)...
Later I'll try the suspect keyboard in the "working" system...
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Well that's a good afternoon of diagnosing in my books then :)JezC wrote: 20 Dec 2023 16:04Booting issue moves with the keyboard, so that helps narrow the investigation down hugely - thanks all!
Next step is to pull the KBD apart, see whats what.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
Indeed! All while the laptop tries to kill it's SSD by building lots of intermediate artifacts before the final binaries are ready...rubber_jonnie wrote: 20 Dec 2023 17:34 Well that's a good afternoon of diagnosing in my books then :)
That might be after I've plugged a Gotek into it & seen what s/w I have that runs...Next step is to pull the KBD apart, see whats what.
There's an image with over 30 Gig of Amiga games on it...but I only have one USB drive bigger than 32 Gig (128 Gig) so it might be used to test it but I don't think it will be a final use for that drive...
Time to add a last-minute request to my Christmas list maybe? :D
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Re: A500 oddities & upgrade suggestions
As Higgy already said, these machines give very little trouble.
You can see the revision on the PCB on the right hand corner just under the floppy drive in the nearest corner.
Rev 5+ and up are the best, if you find a Rev8+ with only 0,5MB Chip memory onboard you are in luck, these do not have a battery and can easily be expanded to 2MB Chip memory by just adding a few chips(soldering) and a 1MB internal expansion.
The Rev6 has a few unpopulated chips, do not add these, with this board you are better off doing a 1MB chipram mod and a compatible 1.8MB internal expansion with a Gary adapter.
For machines without any rev marking you can use this:
https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboa ... .aspx?id=8
To repair your A500+ with the battery damage you can use this:
https://www.amigapcb.org/
These machines are rock solid, things to look for are:
Bad PSU
Battery damage.
Corrosion
Broken or to loose Agnus socket (black/green screen)
Just reseating all the chips(use a PLCC extractor for Agnus) can be enough to bring some machines back to life.
Welcome to the light :dualthumbup: :wink:
You can see the revision on the PCB on the right hand corner just under the floppy drive in the nearest corner.
Rev 5+ and up are the best, if you find a Rev8+ with only 0,5MB Chip memory onboard you are in luck, these do not have a battery and can easily be expanded to 2MB Chip memory by just adding a few chips(soldering) and a 1MB internal expansion.
The Rev6 has a few unpopulated chips, do not add these, with this board you are better off doing a 1MB chipram mod and a compatible 1.8MB internal expansion with a Gary adapter.
For machines without any rev marking you can use this:
https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboa ... .aspx?id=8
To repair your A500+ with the battery damage you can use this:
https://www.amigapcb.org/
These machines are rock solid, things to look for are:
Bad PSU
Battery damage.
Corrosion
Broken or to loose Agnus socket (black/green screen)
Just reseating all the chips(use a PLCC extractor for Agnus) can be enough to bring some machines back to life.
Welcome to the light :dualthumbup: :wink:
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