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Basilisk II Atari

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stephen_usher wrote: 09 Mar 2022 19:30 I have success:
Running from ACSI
Using a hard disk image.
I wouldn't be surprised if SCSI presents a new set of issues to work through, being tied to that second MFP and all.
Or just other TT-only things in general - we'll work through them as they pop up :)
I'm glad you got it running from ACSI and EmuTOS at least. Fingers crossed the next one works on ACSI and TOS3 :)
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Well this would have been nice with a faster machine :)

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The game requires a 68040 or PowerPC but can be tricked into running on 68030 with a Mac shareware called "Pseud040".
It's too slow on my machine though, especially when scrolling the screen.
Maybe it's more due to my slow ISA bus gfxcard rather than CPU speed though..
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Given that the TT has the same hardware for its "LAN" port as the early Apple's LocalTalk port (Zilog SCC) and wired in the same manner, I wonder if that could be got to work eventually with Basilisk. Similarly, direct access to the TT's SCSI interface as, again, it's the same hardware as in the Apple SE/30 etc.

I guess you'd need a software shim to change I/O addresses etc.

If LocalTalk on the TT's "LAN" port does happen I think that would be the very first time that the port would have been used for its intended purpose. :-)
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@stephen_usher Is that the same on the Falcon as well? IIRC that has the same LAN port connector as the TT...and a similar lack of s/w supporting it...
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I've no idea.

I can't seem to quickly find detail specifications for the Falcon which actually list the support chips and merely gloss over with "two serial ports". i.e. completely useless non-specifications.

P.S. Found the Falcon Service Guide. Yes, it's the same 8350 SCC chip as in the TT and Apple SE/30 (and Sun workstations). The Falcon's SCSI controller is also the same as those machines.
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@stephen_usher Great - thanks for confirming.

So once they are working on the TT, there will be a good chance to get them going on the Falcon as well (I hope)...
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Is the Falcon service guide included in the docs on this website already?
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@agranlund: Another idea for 256 colour support in planar modes, is to use an old trick used in certain mono emulators (notably Sebra). In addition to updating/converting only a certain number of scalnlines per VBL, one can update the area round the mouse arrow much more often, thus providing a smooth experience even if the overall frame rate is slightly lower.
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No surprise really since we've seen it works well with Anders' graphics card, but 800x600 mono under MiNT (using Videlity) is actually really very usable on the DFB1. Disc speed much improved, although still half the LCIII.

Now if I could only find what the heck has happened to my video adapter by Daniel H (which has vanished still in its 3D printed case!), I'd try to get it up to 1024x768. :D

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shoggoth77 wrote: 10 Mar 2022 12:16 @agranlund: Another idea for 256 colour support in planar modes, is to use an old trick used in certain mono emulators (notably Sebra). In addition to updating/converting only a certain number of scalnlines per VBL, one can update the area round the mouse arrow much more often, thus providing a smooth experience even if the overall frame rate is slightly lower.
These are not a bad ideas at all, certainly a lot better than my current attempt!
I have no idea what the Mac code might be updating on the screen but I do know where the mouse cursor is at least :)

stephen_usher wrote: 10 Mar 2022 09:40 Given that the TT has the same hardware for its "LAN" port as the early Apple's LocalTalk port (Zilog SCC) and wired in the same manner, I wonder if that could be got to work eventually with Basilisk. Similarly, direct access to the TT's SCSI interface as, again, it's the same hardware as in the Apple SE/30 etc.

I guess you'd need a software shim to change I/O addresses etc.

If LocalTalk on the TT's "LAN" port does happen I think that would be the very first time that the port would have been used for its intended purpose. :-)
Oh, nice! I didn't know they used the same hardware. Given time, I think that should be doable for sure :)
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There is a newer version uploaded to here:
http://www.happydaze.se/basiliskii/

There was a bunch of changes but no new features or anything fancy.
- maybe working on Falcon CT60 (but probably not :lol:)
- timer/interrupt/cache related fixes/changes in regards to making TOS/Mac/the emulator better friends, or at least to stop trying to kill each other.

It may or may not cause new issues compared to the last one.
probably will.. but so far it seems to "work on my machine", it'll be interesting to hear how it works on others :)

You'll want to use BASILISK.INF from the new zip rather than an existing one you have.
Keep "nosound true" unless you want to run something that refuse to even start without sound hardware (some Sierra games)
(The dummy sound driver is causing quite a lot of apps and games to simply lock up)

basilisk_extra1.zip is the same disk as before I just added a few more Mac ROMS. I really don't know which one is best for compatibility yet, MacII-SI was the first one I got booting so I just stuck with that one.

If someone tries on ct60, it would be great to know if it has better luck on EmuTOS in case it doesn't work on TOS404.
(and the log file output would be super in case of failure as well. it can be enabled by changing "logging off" to "logging file" in BASILISK.INF)

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