You will not be able to post if you are still using Microsoft email addresses such as Hotmail etc
See here for more information viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7296
BOOKMARK THIS PAGE !
https://www.exxosforum.co.uk:8085/IP_CHECK/
You can unban yourself if needed. It also sends me reports to investigate the ban.
DO NOT USE MOBILE / CGNAT DEVICES WHERE THE IP CHANGES CONSTANTLY!
At this time, it is unfortunately not possible to whitelist users when your IP changes constantly.
You may inadvertently get banned because a previous attack may have used the IP you are now on.
So I suggest people only use fixed IP address devices until I can think of a solution for this problem!

Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

General Discussion, STOS.
User avatar
Cosmic Puppet
Posts: 1731
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 01:03
Location: Angus!

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by Cosmic Puppet »

Cosmic Puppet wrote: 30 Oct 2019 15:43
DoG wrote: 30 Oct 2019 15:27 Control Panel replacement. You don't need it.
Thanks for that. Helps a lot! :)
I'll put xcontrol back as Notator doesn't mind it and I can use it to check the time without leaving the ST.
US Atari 520 STFM (C070523-001 REV.D1) , Exxos PSU, 4MB Marpet Upgrade, Exxos 6 Chip TOS 1.04 USA, EmuTOS 1.0.1, Ultrasatan, PP Driver, Original Floppy Disk Drive, NEC Multisync EA193Mi Monitor, Star LC-10c Printer, iMP C100110-001 DMA.

https://thecosmicpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases My released music so far...
User avatar
Cosmic Puppet
Posts: 1731
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 01:03
Location: Angus!

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by Cosmic Puppet »

exxos wrote: 29 Oct 2019 09:14 EMUTOS should be run with NVDI. Though that will eat up more RAM.
While troubleshooting Snap it crashing Notator and trying different setups, I accidentally discovered the following:

If I run my set up using your NVDI HD Installer, I get 325559 bytes of RAM available to Notator and 2686 free in SysInfo.
Installed NVDI.jpg
If I run my set up using your NVDI Installed, I get 364483 bytes of RAM available to Notator and 2680 free in SysInfo.
Pre-installed NVDI.jpg
It really surprised me that there's very little difference in free system RAM, yet something is making more RAM available to Notator.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
US Atari 520 STFM (C070523-001 REV.D1) , Exxos PSU, 4MB Marpet Upgrade, Exxos 6 Chip TOS 1.04 USA, EmuTOS 1.0.1, Ultrasatan, PP Driver, Original Floppy Disk Drive, NEC Multisync EA193Mi Monitor, Star LC-10c Printer, iMP C100110-001 DMA.

https://thecosmicpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases My released music so far...
User avatar
exxos
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 28217
Joined: 16 Aug 2017 23:19
Location: UK

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by exxos »

You would have to check every file and size in both setups. Maybe there's a missing font file in one or something. It was never checked.
User avatar
Cosmic Puppet
Posts: 1731
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 01:03
Location: Angus!

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by Cosmic Puppet »

exxos wrote: 02 Nov 2019 09:36 You would have to check every file and size in both setups. Maybe there's a missing font file in one or something. It was never checked.
I tested a few this morning:
NVDI Download Choices.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
US Atari 520 STFM (C070523-001 REV.D1) , Exxos PSU, 4MB Marpet Upgrade, Exxos 6 Chip TOS 1.04 USA, EmuTOS 1.0.1, Ultrasatan, PP Driver, Original Floppy Disk Drive, NEC Multisync EA193Mi Monitor, Star LC-10c Printer, iMP C100110-001 DMA.

https://thecosmicpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases My released music so far...
miguel
Posts: 8
Joined: 19 Sep 2019 04:06

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by miguel »

You can use "kill score" to free up some of the RAM used by Notator and of course if you are using SL (Soft Link) you can partition RAM for running other stuff.
User avatar
Cosmic Puppet
Posts: 1731
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 01:03
Location: Angus!

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by Cosmic Puppet »

miguel wrote: 02 Nov 2019 22:02 You can use "kill score" to free up some of the RAM used by Notator and of course if you are using SL (Soft Link) you can partition RAM for running other stuff.
Thanks. Good to know. It turned out that my main issue was being unaware of NVDI which has sped things up. I mistakenly blamed RAM for this.
US Atari 520 STFM (C070523-001 REV.D1) , Exxos PSU, 4MB Marpet Upgrade, Exxos 6 Chip TOS 1.04 USA, EmuTOS 1.0.1, Ultrasatan, PP Driver, Original Floppy Disk Drive, NEC Multisync EA193Mi Monitor, Star LC-10c Printer, iMP C100110-001 DMA.

https://thecosmicpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases My released music so far...
User avatar
exxos
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 28217
Joined: 16 Aug 2017 23:19
Location: UK

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by exxos »

Cosmic Puppet wrote: 02 Nov 2019 20:52 I tested a few this morning:
I think the original installers was broken and was missing a load of files.. I put them back to make the install complete. As I said, you would need to do a folder comparison and compare every file to see where the RAM "leak" is . You may be able to delete more files to free up more RAM. I don;t know what NVDI loads as default, but IIRC there's printer drivers and fonts installed which you might be able to delete.
User avatar
Cosmic Puppet
Posts: 1731
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 01:03
Location: Angus!

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by Cosmic Puppet »

exxos wrote: 03 Nov 2019 00:54
Cosmic Puppet wrote: 02 Nov 2019 20:52 I tested a few this morning:
I think the original installers was broken and was missing a load of files.. I put them back to make the install complete. As I said, you would need to do a folder comparison and compare every file to see where the RAM "leak" is . You may be able to delete more files to free up more RAM. I don;t know what NVDI loads as default, but IIRC there's printer drivers and fonts installed which you might be able to delete.
I'll test the two different resulting ones, and then find out why the two with the same results are so different in size. One of them is nearly 10 MB!
US Atari 520 STFM (C070523-001 REV.D1) , Exxos PSU, 4MB Marpet Upgrade, Exxos 6 Chip TOS 1.04 USA, EmuTOS 1.0.1, Ultrasatan, PP Driver, Original Floppy Disk Drive, NEC Multisync EA193Mi Monitor, Star LC-10c Printer, iMP C100110-001 DMA.

https://thecosmicpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases My released music so far...
User avatar
Cosmic Puppet
Posts: 1731
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 01:03
Location: Angus!

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by Cosmic Puppet »

It's the HFE folder containing NVDE_D1.hfe and NVDE_D2.hfe making one version massive on the disk. I have no idea what these are for but it works without. I'll have to campare things on the Atari at some point to figure out the RAM "drain".
US Atari 520 STFM (C070523-001 REV.D1) , Exxos PSU, 4MB Marpet Upgrade, Exxos 6 Chip TOS 1.04 USA, EmuTOS 1.0.1, Ultrasatan, PP Driver, Original Floppy Disk Drive, NEC Multisync EA193Mi Monitor, Star LC-10c Printer, iMP C100110-001 DMA.

https://thecosmicpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases My released music so far...
User avatar
exxos
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 28217
Joined: 16 Aug 2017 23:19
Location: UK

Re: Is there any way to add RAM without physically installing it?

Post by exxos »

You need to know the files installed on your C: drive on the ST.. mostly whats in the NVDI folder and others.

Return to “SOFTWARE”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CCBot, trendiction [bot] and 35 guests