That sucksBadwolf wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:51 am MS and Google are killing third party email suppliers. I run my own (private) and my company's.
MS in particular decree something has to be just so to email them and they're now big enough it sticks.
The irony is our corporate side (non-production) signed up for Office365 and now one of our customers and one of our suppliers are blocking us because MS are sending emails from a different address to any listed in their own SPF!
Shambles. Anyone I know who knows anything at all about email says the same thing: MS & Google are getting close to being the de facto email provider for everyone so third party email services will either have to get into bed with them or die off.
BW

Yes I think exactly the same. They just get so big they just engulf everything. As I mentioned previously and others have been YouTube videos.. Do we really want these companies having all this control over our lives ?
As I mentioned a couple days back, if Google decided to ban me, that's my gmail account gone. Which I have had to use more and more lately because I cannot send emails from my own server any more. Likely play store, you tube.. Probably multiple the services which login via Google.. I mean just look at all the chaos when evilbay / paypal banned me. You basically do not exist.
Similarly when I was actually trying to sign up with other payment processors, if you did not have a photo driving licence then you did not exist! As I live with my mum I don't have any utility bills.. I have never had a passport.. But all these companies want such information and never assume that maybe someone does not have these.. I only got a photo driving licence because of some slightly iffy dealings with a local post office. I got our local hairdresser to sign a form to say I was who I said I was etc
This is what I will fear about these companies are just getting too big and have too much control over our lives. When they pull the plug your basically wiped off the grid. I think email is just basically dead now unless you want to play the corporate monster game.
The fight against spam is really not helping all this. I can understand companies like Microsoft clamping down on it. But who voted for them to be judge and executioner of whose email server is allowed to send and receive emails ? It just "seemed to happen" to end up that way.
Some companies I have been emailing regularly buying parts etc have suddenly gone all quiet. I tried to email one of my main supplier contacts and of course.. Got rejected.. I really cannot be bothered to keep sorting this out with companies. By using the MS services they have lost a customer and I doubt I am the only one they have lost.
Louis Rossmann bangs on about such things regularly. But from a different aspect. Basically it is the same thing that we are unknowingly giving up our rights and control over our own information and rights to big companies.When they decide to screw you over, it is always when, not if. I mean the choice is either take a gamble and just used their "free email" services. Or make life difficult by trying to not use them. It is just far too convenient just to use Microsoft for Google accounts. But like I say, we should not be giving control to these companies to this extent. They certainly don't give a crap about little guys just like every other company out there. So becomes a matter of stop using emails sooner rather than later becomes the only real choice IMO.
And if you think about it as well, what about forums such as this one. I have already put a note on the registration screen for people to stop using hotmail etc because they will not get the registration emails. This problem is only going to get worse. Then what ? Basically all forums will be killed off because nobody can register with them any more! We will just end up locked into services which MS and google offer. everything else will just get wiped out of existence.. Likely yourself along with it of course.
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Case in point. Just a snippet of one of my many email accounts.
It is one good thing that PCBWAY have a online chat portal for such messages. As I would be unable to contact them.. Well without resorting to Google mail which would probably not send anyway going by past experience

