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Damage done to my STE

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Re: Damage done to my STE

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First clean the area with IPA and a toothbrush or something similar to see the damage more clearly. Or is that the state of the board efter cleaning?
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Re: Damage done to my STE

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Bikerbob sent me this image of the trashed ROM board... So I just dumped the layer stack below as it should help see what is damaged or not.


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Each layer listed is with the fill on and off. The fills will mostly be 0V. One fill on layer 2 will be for 5v.

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Re: Damage done to my STE

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Thanks so much guys..

WOW Chris.. Layers.. oh no.. thats beyond me..

So I repaired the switcher.. only lost the one pad.. which I think on that bottom layer was not attached to anything ..

So when I boot.. powers up.. just black screen.

wiring on the back is as follows

w103 pin2 to 3 w103 pin3 to Tos HI 32

Tos HI 2 to C114 top to Tos Low 24

I will do my investigating.. but these are the trouble areas.

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Re: Damage done to my STE

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derkom wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:32 am This should be pretty easy to do with the schematic. I was checking these same connections myself on my own STe just the other day, when trying to diagnose a TOS switcher problem (which turned out to be I'd forgotten to hook up the floppy drive :oops:). I was looking at your photo and decided I was too confused when one of those bodges seemed to be connecting one of the address lines to ground. :mrgreen:
Are you saying that if the TOS switcher is in.. and there is no floppy connected to the cable that there would be boot issues?? but not at the point I am at correct??

you would get a screen etc??

Because I dont have a floppy connected in testing this.

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So looking at your trace drawings Chris.

Pin 15 on the LO - which is the one I pulled the top (under the pins) pad off.. is connected to the ROM in layer 2 - and then on layer 4 just to a via to another pin on the ROM.. so.. if those two connections are good.. then I think I should have gotten away with this one. (The Switcher)

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With the signal layers all on, this is pin 15..
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Ok, I am not an expert, but looking at layer 2 I see this.
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Im I seeing it right??

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Re: Damage done to my STE

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Ok, here's a closeup of my STE jumpers if it helps:
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Re: Damage done to my STE

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exxos wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:10 pm 444.jpg


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Sorry Chris, I dont understand just 2 pictures? So your saying there is only the one trace that goes to the Via to the other side.. thats it?

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