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The TF330 is here
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Re: The TF330 is here
Ok, so after some serious chip removal then testing , here is my best guess what happened to me
I swapped out the Ram first and managed to get it to run...briefly died again,so I swapped out the CPLD and ..got nothing
So then I swappped out the IDE to SD card and put a bog standard cheapo IDE to CF that we all normally use with the latest Firmware and it booted !!
So in conclusion did the IDE to SD card die and take the Board with it ? ( I know it was dead at the time because I did try the IDE to CF as well).
I do want to put the SD card adapter back in in case I kill it again. as you can see in the picture below that IDE to SD adapter has lot more going on than just the standard pass through IDE CF adapter we normally use.
Steve what I will do now is put it on soak test again with the latest firmware and with just a standard IDE to Cf ok, and lets see how that goes
I swapped out the Ram first and managed to get it to run...briefly died again,so I swapped out the CPLD and ..got nothing
So then I swappped out the IDE to SD card and put a bog standard cheapo IDE to CF that we all normally use with the latest Firmware and it booted !!
So in conclusion did the IDE to SD card die and take the Board with it ? ( I know it was dead at the time because I did try the IDE to CF as well).
I do want to put the SD card adapter back in in case I kill it again. as you can see in the picture below that IDE to SD adapter has lot more going on than just the standard pass through IDE CF adapter we normally use.
Steve what I will do now is put it on soak test again with the latest firmware and with just a standard IDE to Cf ok, and lets see how that goes
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Re: The TF330 is here
If you can.. measure the voltage of the data pins on the ram side of the bus buffers.
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Re: The TF330 is here
I would recommend the pre alpha firmware for checking for dead ram.
My concern right now is that the RAM is getting 5V.
My concern right now is that the RAM is getting 5V.
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"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
Re: The TF330 is here
Just measured random data lines on the Bus Fets and on the A1 to A8 data pins i get under 1v, and on the B1 to B8 data pins I get highest reading of 2,8v and lowerterriblefire wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:45 am If you can.. measure the voltage of the data pins on the ram side of the bus buffers.
The Vcc is a constant 3,3v

Re: The TF330 is here
So yesterday I didn't get much testing done since the kids were temperamental however... now the gold CPU I was using originally doesn't boot at all anymore. It looks like it might have died, I have to try it in a TF530.
Another gold CPU decided to start working with or without MMUDIS. The same CPU wouldn't get ram recognized the day before.
It's all very puzzling. Looks like completely random behaviour to me.
Another gold CPU decided to start working with or without MMUDIS. The same CPU wouldn't get ram recognized the day before.
It's all very puzzling. Looks like completely random behaviour to me.
Re: The TF330 is here
Could be a bad PCB Alen ,wont be the firstalenppc wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:52 pm So yesterday I didn't get much testing done since the kids were temperamental however... now the gold CPU I was using originally doesn't boot at all anymore. It looks like it might have died, I have to try it in a TF530.
Another gold CPU decided to start working with or without MMUDIS. The same CPU wouldn't get ram recognized the day before.
It's all very puzzling. Looks like completely random behaviour to me.

Re: The TF330 is here
Which side is connected to what ? (not familiar with TF designs sorry all!) I assume one side is the CPU side with pull ups, so assume that should be switching to 5V ?supaduper wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:26 pm Just measured random data lines on the Bus Fets and on the A1 to A8 data pins i get under 1v, and on the B1 to B8 data pins I get highest reading of 2,8v and lower
The Vcc is a constant 3,3v![]()
The other side of the buffer, I assume is 3.3V side connected to the RAM.
So are you saying the supposed 3.3V RAM side is only switching to 1V ?
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Ram side are pins B1 to B8 and give a highest reading of 2.7vexxos wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:06 pmWhich side is connected to what ? (not familiar with TF designs sorry all!) I assume one side is the CPU side with pull ups, so assume that should be switching to 5V ?supaduper wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:26 pm Just measured random data lines on the Bus Fets and on the A1 to A8 data pins i get under 1v, and on the B1 to B8 data pins I get highest reading of 2,8v and lower
The Vcc is a constant 3,3v![]()
The other side of the buffer, I assume is 3.3V side connected to the RAM.
So are you saying the supposed 3.3V RAM side is only switching to 1V ?
Re: The TF330 is here
That should be fine then for 3.3V stuff.. a little low, but that might be the drop across the buffer (i've not checked the pdf).supaduper wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:23 pm Ram side are pins B1 to B8 and give a highest reading of 2.7v
Re: The TF330 is here
Here are the data PDF`s for the Bus fets and the 258mb ram
all looks good regarding the tolerances from what little i know lol
all looks good regarding the tolerances from what little i know lol
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