An Atari ST HDMI All Resolution Solution??

[PhilC]

The GBS will also work for high res but as with the adaptor you've purchased, the ST requires a signal on the mono pin to determine what kind of monitor disconnected to the computer.

And to be honest, my modern 43" tv still has a VGA input but if it hadn't a VGA adaptor to HDMI would cost around £10 from Amazon.

I do hope you will be happy with the route you've chosen but in fairness, there are cheaper options.

[exxos]

Yes, you're definitely missing something, because it's more than just a simple ST-VGA. That box is doing a lot more than that. One, it's HDMI out, not VGA. Second it'll work with any modern HDMI TV or monitor, not just the 15kHz compatible models. I'm not aware of anyone having ever offered anything before that would display all three ST resolutions on any modern display without the 15kHz handicap.

Have you looked at that ebay link ? it *IS* a VGA to HDMI exactly the same as you are advertising, only the "Kit" you mention has the ST-VGA adapter and cartridge power adapter in the kit. So again for the 3rd time, £5 item. So basically your paying £100 for a ST-VGA & PSU adapter... So again I ask, why ?

EDIT: I also believe he didn't manufacture that ST-VGA adapter either. Looks very much like the centurion one to me.

[bfollowell]

Honestly, no, when I first clicked on the link, nothing came up. Now that I'm home and I look at it again, I see your point. I guess with the one I ordered I get the ST stereo audio injected into the HDMI stream, where the one in the link doesn't, but that isn't all that hard or expensive to do either.

Now you have me wondering...

All I can say is that, a 15kHz signal wasn't all that common in normal VGA signals, so there's no guarantee that that adapter will work with the ST, where I know the one I ordered will, but that's basically just me trying to make myself feel better about my purchase.

EDIT: Nope, I see that one does the audio as well! Damnit!!

[exxos]

That adapter was just the first one I saw, was just proving the point about the costs of it all though more than anything. I'm not saying don't buy it, I am sure it works and works well.

The ST's mono resolution is normally compatible with VGA monitors. Though if you want colour and HDMI, then you indeed need a setup like you originally suggested.

Ultimately like I said though, there is a new shifter in the making which is really good quality and direct HDMI output. The project is basically up and working for some time.

https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 410#p17130

[PhilC]

Ok, so in hindsight yes you could have gotten a different solution cheaper, etc etc.

What may help the community as a whole would be your doing an "unbiased honest" review of the product. That way others are able to decide whether this is the adaptor of choice for them.

[bfollowell]

Yes, I'll give it a good review once I get it in and get my STE converted to U.S. and get all of Exxos' mandatory fixes in place.

I'm interested in the new shifter project Exxos mentioned in the earlier post, but the few posts I read of that thread made it sound like that was for ST/STF/STFM models only, no STE, which is what I have. I haven't read all the way through the whole thread though, so I'm not sure if the scope of the project has changed.

[TimNaber]

I have 3 19in flat panel Dell Monitors that are 15khz capable. They cost $89 each, I bought them brand new in the last 3 years. The UBE From Exxos Store was $40? ea, I have 3. So $130 for same basic results per station, but my cart port is open for NetUSB and I only have one VGA cable out of the computer. I use external speakers.

[bfollowell]

I have 3 19in flat panel Dell Monitors that are 15khz capable. They cost $89 each, I bought them brand new in the last 3 years. The UBE From Exxos Store was $40? ea, I have 3. So $130 for same basic results per station, but my cart port is open for NetUSB and I only have one VGA cable out of the computer. I use external speakers.

Not really the same results. You can get similar results as long as you always have access to, and never want to use your STs on anything other than, a 15kHz compatible monitor that, at least here in the U.S. are getting more and more rare. Forget using it with a television.

But I'm happy that you have all those displays you can use them on.

Also, no need to get so hung up on the USB power adapter thing. There's no reason at all that you would need to use that and tie up your cartridge port if you didn't want to. You could use just about any cell phone charger/adapter to power it.

I have a Best Electronics cable with the built-in switch and an NEC Multisync monitor as well, and it works well, but the ST is the only thing I use it for. I like the idea of being able to get a monitor off my desk and to be able to share my newer PC's monitor with my ST, and being able to use my ST with any of the other eight TVs and monitors in my house, none of which are 15kHz compatible.

But I'm glad you're happy with your current setup.

[czietz]

Usually, though, a VGA-to-HDMI adapter doesn't do any scan-doubling, i.e., the horizontal frequency stays at 15 kHz even on the HDMI side. So you're still left with the problem of needing a 15kHz-compatible monitor, only now you need one with HDMI. See the posts in this thread: http://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 47#p347318

[bfollowell]

Usually, though, a VGA-to-HDMI adapter doesn't do any scan-doubling, i.e., the horizontal frequency stays at 15 kHz even on the HDMI side. So you're still left with the problem of needing a 15kHz-compatible monitor, only now you need one with HDMI. See the posts in this thread: http://atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 47#p347318

True, but not in this case. That's the whole thing that's different about this one, at least according to the creator. This isn't a simple pass-through like a lot of the cheap VGA to HDMI devices you see on ebay. There is no 15kHz compatibility requirement with this device. It will supposedly work with any modern display, monitor or TV, with an HDMI input. Granted, I haven't received mine yet, so I can't confirm that, but that's what the creator says, and I'll definitely post my results once I receive it and check it out.