This fellow arrived in the post for just £15 from a nice chap over at Stardot.
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As you can see, it's not in the best of shape, the list of issues as follows:
No ULA or ULA socket
No ROM.
CPU soldering looks a bit off.
No case or motherboard screws.
Dead PSU.
I've fixed the PSU already, the starter cap was a tiny fraction of what it should have been, so I've done a full recap bar the bulk cap as they never seem to have issues, and the PSU is working great on another machine.
Need to order some machined pin socket strips now and some Hydrogen Peroxide to see if the sunny weather and a warm bath will improve its' looks
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Scoping out the clock circuit, there was nothing at the CPU, and there was no 16Mhz clock at the ULA, but the crystal had 16Mhz. So I checked IC8, which should have had 16Mhz on pin 8, but nothing good was on that pin.
IC8 removed and tested, and it failed, so I dropped another 74S04 in and lo and behold I have good clocks now:
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Plus I am getting an image on screen:
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Still needs work, but this is good progress IMHO
Since it has a known good ROM and CPU, my money is on some bad RAM at this point...
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
HigashiJun wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:26 pm
A nice summer project in fact.
Indeed.
I plugged it in and gave it a quick scan to find IC11 rather hot:
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Yep, that is 104C about 60 seconds after powering on. IC11 is a 74S74 and shouldn't be that hot. Needless to say it is bad after testing and I've not got any replacements, so have put a 74LS74 in for now.
I get a solid image now:
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And a good video signal with a colourburst:
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So clock and video out look fixed, I just need to find the culprit for the non booting white screen now.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Quick check of the /CS line on the ROM and nothing is doing, nor on the R/W line of the CPU, so I need to find pin 46 of the ULA and see what that's doing.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
rubber_jonnie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:10 pm
Quick check of the /CS line on the ROM and nothing is doing, nor on the R/W line of the CPU, so I need to find pin 46 of the ULA and see what that's doing.
OK, so CPU 'might' be bad, just testing with an alternate and R/W has a signal now. /CS on the ROM is actually tied to GND though, so that is a red herring.
I've also replaced the RAM and one IC was dead, another marginal. I do now get more than a white screen now, I get corrupt graphics.
I think next step will be to buzz out the address and data lines, see if any are missing in action. There was some dodgy soldering on the CPU and some evidence of other rework, so lots of potential for badness.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
I'm not sure that it's going to take very long for you to get this one running actually.
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
stephen_usher wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:47 pm
I'm not sure that it's going to take very long for you to get this one running actually.
Having a known good ULA certainly helps
If I'm honest, I only wanted it for the case, but the PSU and mainboard called to me...
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
HigashiJun wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:33 am
Slowly but surely, you'll find out what's wrong with your Elky.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...