Newly acquired 520 STe questions

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Re: Newly acquired 520 STe questions

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Hi All

Thanks for the suggestions. I've sort of figured out a technique for the old sockets that mostly works. However the ram is not all working yet.

So, I've removed all simms and given the sockets contacts a clean, they didn't seem like they really needed it (but what do I know?), it might help.

I then tried using just 2 simms (instead of all 4) and before committing to snapping them in I booted and it seemed to work.
I then snapped them in place and rebooted again, and then it no longer worked, more black bars.
I then decided to try the old simms and those went in a whole lot easier and worked fine even when snapped in place.

I'm left wondering if the new simms are too tight of a fit and if that's making it hard for them to seat properly. Either that or they are defective? But what are the chances of that?

When my machine does boot I do have a couple of concerns. Firstly I don't know if the drive works because I don't have a disk with bootable content. Maybe someone could suggest a program I could put on a floppy and how to make it auto boot? You see I don't actually have a mouse, which is making it hard to tell if it's working or not. I also haven't used an ST since '89 and I barely understood it then. Do I just pop a .prg or .tos into an auto folder and that should run on boot?

When it does get to the GEM desktop there's some little flickering pixels around the A and B file cabinets and the Trash. Does that sound like some common sign of other problems? I also sometimes see a line of blue and green pixels right at the top of the screen in the overscan.

Yet, another question. There's a little slider button on the floppy drive, what does that do in its different positions?

Thanks again for any help, I'm really just a software guy and totally out of my depth with anything other than snapping some new ram in. But even that has been a challenge :)
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Re: Newly acquired 520 STe questions

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Jobbo wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:51 am ... You see I don't actually have a mouse, which is making it hard to tell if it's working or not...
Hold [ALT] and use arrow keys to move mouse pointer. Hold [ALT] and press [INSERT] or [CLR HOME] for left or right mouse button.
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Do you have a PC with a floppy drive? If so, the STE should be able to read any 720KB floppy disks you make on that, then just download sysinfo.prg from the internet and drop it on the floppy. Then pop it into the STE.

it won't autoboot, but with the info from @DoG about moving the pointer without a mouse, you should be able to open the floppy disk A: icon and then double click on sysinfo.prg to run it.

If you want to test the RAM you can do the same with yaart.

With regards to the RAM can you post a pic of one of the SIMMs please, chips facing up. It may be you have parity RAM, and although people have had success with it, non-parity RAM tends to work better.

It may also be older RAM that isn't fast enough but the picture may help working that out.

I've never encountered SIMMs that are too big for the socket, and don't seat properly, so it's probably worth using a magnifying glass to check the contacts in the sockets.
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Moving the mouse pointer is just holding down the Alternate key and then use the arrow keys. Alt-Insert is left button and Alt-ClrHome is right button.
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Can anyone point me to where I'll find "sysinfo.prg" and "yaart" in a form that I can easily copy to a dos floppy?

I've seen some MSA download for sysinfo, but don't know what that is?

Edit: I found yaart and it's in a zip with the .tos files inside, so that's perfect!
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Sysinfo is here: Sysinfo

Download & unzip.

Yaart is here: Yaart
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Awesome! Thank you!
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Re: Newly acquired 520 STe questions

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Well, looks like the floppy drive is not working.

It couldn't read the disk, after a bit of cleaning it did seem to start, it could read enough to show me the contents and try to run a couple of programs, but they couldn't load.

I then tried formatting a new disk and that didn't seem to work.

Can I just replace it with a Gotek from Amazon? Or does it need to be a special one? Before I spend more money is there anything else I could try?
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Yes you can replace it with a Gotek. Note that some of the cheaper ones are not programmed with the Flashfloppy firmware, which means doing it yourself.
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Re: Newly acquired 520 STe questions

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And don't forget to set the jumpers on the GOTEK correctly.

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