Dammit! @rubber_jonnie all this Elk Pron; nice photos and the like is really making me struggle with NOT fetching it out of the loft.
Especially as I just bought that Aydin monitor which is still out and came with the RGBI beeb lead (which I imagine the Elk also has?).
There's some games very accessible on the shelf, and I have a portable cassette player around the same location as the elk.
Can sort a 16v DC PSU too easily; in fact, the only thing really stopping the show is the lack of a cassette interfacing cable. (I may even have that in my connoisseur computer lead collection).
I sense a trip back to that game shop soon...
Hang on. TIME. That's what I don't have, TIME!
I am intrigued, however, like @stephen_usher as to what the differences are between the beeb and Elk versions of Elite.
I would imagine, that, like mentioned, the video modes are different, but I was wondering also whether the same missions, no of ships, thargoids, etc are in the game?
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I'm not sure. I think someone on Stardot has investigated the differences in every version.
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Yeah, probably can't swap modes on the fly in the same way as on the Beeb.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pmLoads and screen corrupts, so no it doesn't work on the Electron it would seem.stephen_usher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:52 pm I wonder if the full BBC version of Elite (rather than Electron specific one) will work on the expanded machine.
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ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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Ahh, go on, you know you want tomrbombermillzy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:38 pm Dammit! @rubber_jonnie all this Elk Pron; nice photos and the like is really making me struggle with NOT fetching it out of the loft.
Especially as I just bought that Aydin monitor which is still out and came with the RGBI beeb lead (which I imagine the Elk also has?).
There's some games very accessible on the shelf, and I have a portable cassette player around the same location as the elk.
Can sort a 16v DC PSU too easily; in fact, the only thing really stopping the show is the lack of a cassette interfacing cable. (I may even have that in my connoisseur computer lead collection).
I sense a trip back to that game shop soon...
Hang on. TIME. That's what I don't have, TIME!
I am intrigued, however, like @stephen_usher as to what the differences are between the beeb and Elk versions of Elite.
I would imagine, that, like mentioned, the video modes are different, but I was wondering also whether the same missions, no of ships, thargoids, etc are in the game?
As for differences, there's some detail here: https://www.bbcelite.com/electron/
Definitely cut down compared to the Beeb version
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Well, I've had a quick look around and...apparently not so much:rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:55 pm As for differences, there's some detail here: https://www.bbcelite.com/electron/
Definitely cut down compared to the Beeb version
It seems there are several versions, some quite close to the beeb original.
The guy in the linked YT vid has a pimped Elk with 64Kb and an ARM (RPi) co-processor. There's definitely stuff on that version that the site you linked said was missing from the original.
It's like one of those answers that just make you ask more questions...
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If we are talking the unadulterated version, then there are differences you can't escape. Trouble is, over the years since Elite came out, a lot has been done to address those differences, but the same site does have a good guide here: https://www.bbcelite.com/compare/versions_of_elite.htmlmrbombermillzy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:14 pmThe guy in the linked YT vid has a pimped Elk with 64Kb and an ARM (RPi) co-processor. There's definitely stuff on that version that the site you linked said was missing from the original.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:55 pm As for differences, there's some detail here: https://www.bbcelite.com/electron/
Definitely cut down compared to the Beeb version
Its like one of those answers that just make you ask more questions...
It's kind of made me think about a 2nd 6502 for one of my Beebs, just for Elite
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Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Or a PiTube 2nd processor.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:22 pm It's kind of made me think about a 2nd 6502 for one of my Beebs, just for Elite
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ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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Funnily enough, I was just thinking the same thingstephen_usher wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:28 pmOr a PiTube 2nd processor.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:22 pm It's kind of made me think about a 2nd 6502 for one of my Beebs, just for Elite
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Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Well, I was unaware there were so many versions of Elite for Acorn machines, even down to beeb disk/tape versions being different.
(I guess that is a representation of the customisation options available to them these days).
(I guess that is a representation of the customisation options available to them these days).
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mrbombermillzy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:57 pm Well, I was unaware there were so many versions of Elite for Acorn machines, even down to beeb disk/tape versions being different.
(I guess that is a representation of the customisation options available to them these days).
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...