A5000 - diving in at the deep end!

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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!

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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:58 pm What's your routing table like? If no route then no ping.
It shouldn't really need a routing table to ping something on the same subnet, like another PC or the gateway, which is in the settings, but I can't even ping anything local. That's not 100% true, I can ping the localhost address and the local IP address.

Well, unless the A5000 TCP/IP stack is weird and I'm missing something. Or it doesn't like my 10/100 switch.
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!

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Ok, slow but good progress !
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rubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:07 pm
stephen_usher wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:58 pm What's your routing table like? If no route then no ping.
It shouldn't really need a routing table to ping something on the same subnet, like another PC or the gateway, which is in the settings, but I can't even ping anything local. That's not 100% true, I can ping the localhost address and the local IP address.

Well, unless the A5000 TCP/IP stack is weird and I'm missing something. Or it doesn't like my 10/100 switch.
Even the local physical interface needs a route to the subnet it's connected to, e.g.

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% netstat -r
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
default         router          0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0
163.1.22.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth0
link-local      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 eth0
In this case the "local" network is 163.1.22.0. There's also a default route out to the router.
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:19 pm
rubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:07 pm

It shouldn't really need a routing table to ping something on the same subnet, like another PC or the gateway, which is in the settings, but I can't even ping anything local. That's not 100% true, I can ping the localhost address and the local IP address.

Well, unless the A5000 TCP/IP stack is weird and I'm missing something. Or it doesn't like my 10/100 switch.
Even the local physical interface needs a route to the subnet it's connected to, e.g.

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% netstat -r
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
default         router          0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0
163.1.22.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth0
link-local      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 eth0
In this case the "local" network is 163.1.22.0. There's also a default route out to the router.
I'll check it out, I'm used to every OS I've ever used building a routing table so that may be catching me out
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Yeah, usually the route is added automatically.
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Ok, so managed to get this:

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Supposedly fully working for £16, so with the cabling coming from Cricklewood electronics for about the same, I should be able to set up a test BNC network and hopefully, plus since it has AUI, I can hopefully test all the elements of the A5000 NIC to see if they are all working.

Fun and games this A5000 when it comes to networking.
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:dualthumbup:
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Fingers crossed !

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Also heard back from CJE, who have been very helpful, and I'm going to try a blank system with uniboot and drivers supplied by them, see if I get any further.

Will be dead easy to set up now I have BlueSCSI installed, I can just drop in a spare SD card and blank image, so it'll make things clean and easy.

Fingers crossed I'll have this sorted soon.
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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So I tried running the e1info command as suggested by CJE and I can see when executing multiple times that the RX & TX frame counters are incrementing, as is the unwanted frames counter.

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So I'm positive something is working and it's just a matter of time :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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