Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

A homemade Atari-like computer based on 68060 and various Atari ST like peripherals
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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DrZiplok wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:21 pm
TKSM wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:53 pm HI to all RAVEN enthusiasts.
I found isa ethernet card at home but iam not sure if this run with Raven.
3c509B. A quick look didn't turn up any drivers for it.
Also it looks to be a 10 Mbps card (writing on the card), so you may have issues with other network equipment being incompatible.
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If you can find drivers, those 3Com cards are the bees knees. Modern switches should work fine with it as they'd autonegociate down to 10Mb/s.

Unfortunately I don't think you will find drivers.
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Finally tried Tyrian, Doom and Scumm.
My Yamaha based card seems to have developed some issues (very bad sound output probably bad caps).
So tried the Picogus with the new firmware.

The games works great and I really enjoy the sound/music/speech support.
Picogus is a great card now with easy mode switching and the mpu mode available in all configs.
(fixed yamaha board and removed picogus. real opl is 😎)

Thanks Anders!
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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luciodra wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:06 pm I have the NASA network at home... in addition to wifi I have connected Mac, HP Win 10, Amiga 4000Tx, Raspberry PI 4, Mac Mini G4 with Morphos and they all work without problems. Yes, I got the idea that unfortunately it is the ethernet card that I had new for many years in a box that is not compatible with Raven. Or there is something in the eneh.stx drivers
I have to try with another card but I'm sorry about this.
Your image shows packets coming and going (from the ifconfig output). Which is good.

Normally I'd expect a

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route add 192.168.1.0 en0
before the default route definition, but since you got no error, that may not be a problem. Worth trying though?

What's your routeing table say? ("route" with no parameters)

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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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This time it's complicated... I've been trying to solve it for days, and I've pulled out war relics but nothing...
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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luciodra wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:11 pm This time it's complicated... I've been trying to solve it for days, and I've pulled out war relics but nothing...
Are you sure your router is at .254? (sorry if this has been asked/answered, I couldn't find confirmation). Until you can ping it and get a return, everything else is a waste of time.
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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Yes. This is the configuration on my Mac.
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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Hi,

So try to ping 192.168.1.77 from your mac, then try to ping 192.168.1.100 from the raven.

If it doesn't work this could be the 10mb/s thing but can't be sure.

You can start a ping from the raven and check if some log appears in Osx. To push further you'll need to sniff the network packets with hub (not switch or use a direct link to a linux machine )and wireshark or tcpdump but it needs some knowledge...

You should also check if logs exist on your router.


EDIT: There's also straight cable and crossed cable for rj45 (i.e. RX<->RX & TX<->TX or RX<->TX & TX<->RX) so I guess your network card doesn't swap automatically between these modes...you need to test with each of these two type of rj45 cable.
For the 10mb/s problem you can plug a 10/100 mb/s switch between the raven and the router or switch depending of your installation...
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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medmed wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:58 pm Hi,

So try to ping 192.168.1.77 from your mac, then try to ping 192.168.1.100 from the raven.

If it doesn't work this could be the 10mb/s thing but can't be sure.

You can start a ping from the raven and check if some log appears in Osx. To push further you'll need to sniff the network packets with hub (not switch or use a direct link to a linux machine )and wireshark or tcpdump but it needs some knowledge...

You should also check if logs exist on your router.


EDIT: There's also straight cable and crossed cable for rj45 (i.e. RX<->RX & TX<->TX or RX<->TX & TX<->RX) so I guess your network card doesn't swap automatically between these modes...you need to test with each of these two type of rj45 cable.
For the 10mb/s problem you can plug a 10/100 mb/s switch between the raven and the router or switch depending of your installation...
It's not easy to follow all the discussions, but I've really tried everything, with the various machines I own, crossed cables, ethernet and bnc, various bnc and rj45 cards. I tried changing card slots. Nothing comes out or comes in from Raven...
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Re: Raven. A homemade Atari-like computer

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I've used two different cards successfully but they were both based on the RTL8019AS chipset.
Do we know if anyone has had success with a different brand NE2000 clone?

I just stumbled upon this in a (very old) messageboard discussing Ethernec (from which we are borrowing the driver)
I've had varying mileage with other NE2K compatible cards, most of that mileage being of the "it doesn't work" kind,
and I have tried 10 different kinds of cards before giving up and getting the card the board was developed with, an RTL8019 based NE2k card.
If you happen to have an RTL8019 based card lying around, or can find one for cheap, it might be worth a shot.
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